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Re: [orca-list] FOR REVIEW: Re: orca getting stuck or missing lines in libreoffice writer

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Hi,

Thanks! Happy to see such problem fixed waiting for us to be able to fix it upstream. Alex got that LO to set this bug as important, it is a first step.

@Peter: do not hesitate to report such bugs. Otherwise I am afraid we are considered as "boring" as always complaining, while other users have similar problems but just do not say them. Bugs can be prioritized, even by Hypra, if many users report it (at least here if not in bugreports). If just one reports and complains often... probably dev says "well, see later" :)

Best regards,

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Le 08/02/2018 à 23:19, Peter Vágner a écrit :
Hello,

Thank you!
I have never reported this because I got used to working it around at the usage level. When selecting or deselecting text it was possible to get the feetback when passing over such text that would not be read by orca otherwise.
I know my usage workaround is errm. to say it gently not very practical.
It might all had been even more awesome if I in deed reported this sooner or at least tried to discuss it as I noticed it.

Greetings

Peter


2018-02-08 21:36 GMT+01:00 Keith Barrett <lists barrettpianos co uk>:
Hi Joanie,

Thanks so much for this work around, , it is fantastic now!

Really appreciate the lengths you go to to keep us all happy.

Thanks

Keith




On 08/02/18 17:04, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
I've just committed a work-around to Orca -- once which is targeted to
the specific problem. I want to stress that reversing the patch as Hypra
has done can have all sorts of consequences including:

* Orca speaking things which are not showing to end users (i.e. not in
   the user interface at all)
* Orca changing it's "locus of focus" to such a non-existent object.

At best that can lead to chattiness; at worst it can lead to Orca not
presenting what you're really in because Orca thinks you're in this
non-existing object.

Hypra would be well advised to undo their revert. Hopefully my addition
to the fix Hypra reverted will address this problem. Please let me know.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 02/08/2018 06:41 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
Le 08/02/2018 à 11:10, Keith Barrett a écrit :
Is this a known issue and is there a work around?

Yes, it is a known issue:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109398

Debian sid libreoffice writer 6.0.

in a document with more than 6 pages, when arrowing through the
document, some lines are not announced and eventually, speech stops
responding in a whole section.  This does not happen in short documents.

Joanie committed the patch "0c8ea541454fc7b29eb12abac8f6baff690a6649"
which stopped the existing workaround.

Given the important consequences on Libreoffice usage, but understanding
why Joanie did this, Hypra reverted the patch in our Orca release for
our users.

It does not mean that we wait for this bug to be fixed upstream, but we
ensure the best user experience waiting for having ourselves the time to
look at it. We are discussing with Libreoffice, and have this bug at top
of our priorities (in LO at least, in parallel with Firefox bugs). If
this approach appears safe enough, maybe Joanie could accept to revert
the patch waiting for we find a solution?

Best regards.


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