Re: [orca-list] Is there a workaround for this Vim issue?

[Jann Schneider <jann schneider googlemail com>]

Hi,

i can confirm this issue. Looks like it is no issue specific to neovim
since i'm using the classic vim on my box.. Unfortunately i cannot
provide any workaround for this.

btw. i'm just wondering if you have some issues i have with vim, too?
- orca speaks the last word of the previous line when arrowing down to
the next one
- at the first line of a file the braille device displays the complete
window title e.g.
"gnome-terminal-server root:/etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf " and the text
of the editor is appended to this stuff

Thanks
- Jann

2016-05-15 15:24 GMT+02:00, Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>:
> Trying to get into using Vim over Gedit. It seems to have lots of great
> ways to boost my productivity but I keep hitting issues using it in an
> Orca terminal. To see this one, do the following:
>
>
> 1. Enable the "speak indentation" setting in Orca's settings.
>
> 2. Run vim.
>
> 3. Type "a" to enter append mode.
>
> 4. Type all of the following between the "---" lines, not including the
> "---" lines themselves:
>
>
> ---
>
> Test
>
>    Indented line
>
> ---
>
>
> Note the 2 spaces before "Indented line"
>
>
> 5. Backspace over everything on "  Indented line", including spaces.
>
> 6. Press up-arrow.
>
> 7. Press down-arrow.
>
>
> When I down-arrow, I hear "2 spaces" but I can't left/right-arrow over
> them. If I review in flat review mode, I still see the spaces.
>
>
> I filed a Neovim issue about this a while back, but I think it also
> happens in regular Vim since nvim is a fork. My thinking is that there's
> some artifact in how Vim renders its terminal where it leaves the 2
> spaces around even though they can't be traversed, but I've also seen
> scenarios where gnome-terminal and the accessible view of the terminal
> get out of sync, so I'm wondering if this might be one of those?
>
>
> I'm also wondering if there is a workaround? This makes distinguishing
> between a blank line, in the "\n\n" sense, impossible to distinguish
> between lines of spaces, which some folks put in their code for some
> reason or other. I've also seen instances where deleting all the text of
> a line leaves its indentation spacing behind, which I don't want in my
> own code. Looking into how to do this automatically with Vimscript on
> file write, which I know is possible.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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