Re: [orca-list] Another Web question

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Jean-Philippe.

Orca says blank for me on that page -- if I'm in focus mode. However,
you gave me a clue in this message, namely when you said you cannot read
any message of the forum. If I disable Firefox's own caret navigation
and am in focus mode, the page scrolls because there is no caret to move.

What focus mode does is cause Orca to get out of the way and let the
native web app and browser functionality to work as if Orca was not
running. (Orca merely presents your new location.) If Orca is not
running, and Firefox's caret navigation is enabled, the arrows move your
(Firefox's) caret. But if you disable the caret, there is no caret to
move and Firefox scrolls the page instead.

With this in mind, could you be sure you have Firefox's caret navigation
enabled (F7 toggles it). Having done so, please try again.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 05/01/2016 12:59 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Orca 3.20.1, this page:
> https://lafibre.info/nas/conseil-achat-materiel-serveur-home/msg182822/#msg182822
>
> If I switch to focus mode (ins-a-a), I don't have blank line, and even
> I've nothing (i.e. I cannot read any message of the forum).
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Le 01/05/2016 16:25, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > Hi Jean-Philippe.
> >
> > In focus mode, Orca speaks blank lines for me. Could you please provide
> > me with a concrete example of where there are blank lines that Orca
> > fails to read?
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 05/01/2016 12:34 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've just had a new request about this topic: in teaching contents about
> > > computing, programming, etc., it seems that reading code example is
> > > difficult. Because such examples are seperated by blank lines. As Orca
> > > doesn't speak blank lines, even in focus mode, impossible to separate
> > > easily functions or code and explanations. Are there other similar
> > > feedbacks?
> > >
> > > For remind, I just think this behavior should be optional in Mozilla: a
> > > checkbox !o speak or not blank lines.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 15/04/2016 02:31, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
> > > > Hi Joanie,
> > > >
> > > > Oh I see, thanks. Actually there's this option, and "ignore blank lines"
> > > > in Firefox tab in specific prefs. But in this second case, it affects
> > > > tables, not the regular page. Are they 2 different contexts? I mean,
> > > > couldn't we imagine to extend this checkbox (in Firefox tab) from tables
> > > > to the whole Web page (navigation section), so that the user could choose?
> > > >
> > > > I tried focus and navigation modes as you sold me. They don't enable me,
> > > > on the page I studied, to see blank lines. Navigation mode skips them,
> > > > but fous mode as well. But I guess it's expected isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > With my best regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 15/04/2016 01:51, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > > Hi Jean-Philippe.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 04/14/2016 07:34 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Last question: you said that it was a users request, but why the
> > > > > > checkbox "speak blank lines" doesn't help them to choose to have them
> > > > > > spoken or not? Does this setting affect another kind of contents?
> > > > >
> > > > > What you refer to is a speech setting; not a caret-navigation setting.
> > > > > It's documentation can be found at:
> > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/preferences_speech.html. The
> > > > > content to save you the time:
> > > > >
> > > > > =======
> > > > > Speak blank lines
> > > > > If the Speak blank lines checkbox is checked, Orca will say "blank" each
> > > > > time you arrow to a blank line. If it is unchecked, Orca will say
> > > > > nothing when you move to a blank line.
> > > > > Default value: checked
> > > > > =======
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH.
> > > > > --joanie