Re: [orca-list] Urgent: Linux accessibility help



Yes, you need tto put the accesiblity ppa in to your sources.list file or better as a seperate.list file in 
sources.llist.d dir.
You will get a much newer orca r release and the accessiblity stack it needs to work.
Sick with the ubuntu you have. It is a good choice accessiblity wise. 
You will see a huge difference in firefox accessibliy performance and new features that help firefox very 
much in the orca 3.20 that you will get with the 
accessiblity ppa, at least I'm 99% sure that is the release av aila ble there now.
The newer firefox is better than the old one that shipped with this ubuntu release. I may be off a bit, but 
firefox 25-30   was a dark age for 
accessiblity, well, darkened, with 2 the worst as I recall, and things clearing up somewhere around 29 or 30, 
gradual improving from 25...
I don't know about the web interface you are using, buit once you get the new orca insalled and started    
you might need to use clickables instead of just 
using enter for the links to your email messages. I just was on a webpage las night that showed a link I 
needed  to open as a normal link, but did not 
respond to enter, nor did i appear in a links list. When I used the list clickables key combo it appeared, 
and opened correctlyo pressing the activate 
button.
Check in the orca prefs window's keybindings tab to learn all of the available commands/bindings, but for 
clickables you want
shift alt a. Arrow up and down till you find the item you want, and tab to activate and enter again. 
Pressing enter on the clickable's label in the list does not open it, i.e. you must use activate or one of 
the other options to interact with the item in 
stuch lists. 
There are similar lists available for standard links, graphics, buttonsd, etc.
I have no experience with ibm-notes, but seem to remember hearing that it is not accessible ata all.
You need to convince your I.T. department to allow the acessibility ppa. it will make a huge difference, 
especially with mozilla apps, but has features 
that will help you with other software and ingeneral will perform better.
  I can't over state the improvement in firefox accessibility and its responsiveness over the last couple of 
years. It is not apparent on all webpages, but 
is notable on most, and some pages and or controls that were unusable before work beautifully now, and others 
that were slunky to use before now work 
smoothly.
If I can be of any assistance in helping you configure your Ubuntu, feel free to write me off list and I'll 
do what I can.
You might want to install Vinux5 on another machine and compare configurations as it is based on the Ubuntu 
release you are using. 
   
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     B.H.
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  Geoff Shang wrote:
Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 05:50:00PM +0100

Hi,

I've just started a new job and have run into some accessibility issues that
may not be solvable under Linux.  I would like to solve it this way though
so I'm posting here for help.

Here are the requirements:

1.  Authorised Linux releases are Ubuntu 14.04 and RHEL 7.2.  That's it.

2.  I am required to use IBM Notes (formerly Lotus Notes) for email.

Here's what happened:

I got a laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 installed.  I don't know if speech was
activated during the install, so I don't know if the desktop environment has
been optimised for Orca.

IBM Notes 9.01 doesn't talk at *all*.  The only keystroke I can get to talk
is alt-tab.

There is also a web UI for the email, but I can't open the email messages in
Firefox (enter does nothing).

But I think the Firefox issue may be due to Firefox 46 being installed which
I suspect is current Firefox rather than the version that came with Ubuntu
14.04.  The menus don't talk either, and the apt cache shows both Firefox 46
and 28.

Other than this, Firefox is quite responsive.

Of more concern is the fact that Orca is version 3.10.3, which I believe is
pretty ancient and lacks a lot of improvements.

Unity is 7.2.6 which may or may not be the version that shipped with Ubuntu
14.04 and which may or may not work well with Orca 3.10.3.

So my questions, in no particular order, are:

1.  How is Ubuntu 14.04 generally for desktop accessibility?

2.  Would RHEL 7.2 be any better?

3.  Does IBM Notes work with Orca at all?  I would expect it to but it's not
working here right now.

4.  Would the Ubuntu Accessibility PPA be of any help with any of this?  I
don't know how receptive IT would be to using it but it might be easier than
arguing for Ubuntu 16.04.

I also welcome any off-list comments on Mac and Windows accessibility of IBM
Notes, in case I have to go that way.

Thanks in advance for any help that anyone may provide.

Cheers,
Geoff.

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