Re: [orca-list] can orca work with xfce?

[covici ccs covici com]

Just to let you know, I have speech-dispatcher working with Alsa, and
spd-say  works fine.

B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com> wrote:

> So, I'm also assuming you have orca, and that it has pulled in dependencies including speech-dispatcher. 
> I  also assume you have configured speech-dispatcher and it passed the basic tests running spd-conf, or you 
> know what you 
> are doing and manually did all the speech dispatcher configuration. If not, then run spd-conf selecting the 
> configuration 
> you need. 
> I'm also assuming you have xorg packages installed. I do not know exactly what packages are called for 
> gentoo, so much 
> help if any of that is not true is beyond me. 
> If you have your x-server installed however and have a ~/.xinitrc file add the line I mentioned, (I put in 
> two, but 
> export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
> is enough), must be copied in there at the bottom. 
> Then just go to the console where you want to run the gui, I add some extras myself and startmy x-sesions 
> in tty9 usually, 
> but most common is to either use tty1, or have a desktop manager and they usually use tty7, but some use 1 
> as well I 
> think. 
> Anyway, let's say you have a standard 6 console setup, and you are logged-in to tty6, go there, kill 
> speakup with the 
> printscreen key or similar, and then type startx and wait.
> In around 20 seconds I hear welcome to screenreader on this netbook, so most modern computers will be 
> faster. Again, you 
> may not have any more speech than that message unless you have assistive tech enabled, so borrow some eyes 
> for 30 seconds 
> so that you can get help to find that item in the settings menu. Then log-out and restart your graphical 
> session with 
> startx again and hopefully everything, or most of it anyway, will be talking. 
> Some .ini and .conf files in ~/.config may need tweaking to get them to dispaay in accessible ways. I do 
> not know how much 
> of what I had to do was distro specific. 
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 04:38:38PM -0400, covici ccs covici com wrote:
> > So, now that I have xfce, what program do I start -- can you give me the
> > xinit file or whatever for doing this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > I use xfce as my primary desktop on an arch-linux system. 
> > > I just use startx, i.e. no desktop manager or init script or similar to auto start it.
> > > Another poster commented that mate uses less memory, but my experience does not support this, nor does 
> > > at least one 
> > > article I read comparing desktop invironments, although at least two friends say that m ate uses less 
> > > memory on their 
> > > systems.
> > > LXDE should indeed use less memory, but except for trying knopix's accessible version I've never tried 
> > > it. A couple of 
> > > years ago I found this unstable when running more than one GUI ap at a time. 
> > > XFCE sadly does not yet make any panel applets and similar accessible, nor can one see the panels or 
> > > the desktop with orca 
> > > at all. Some  of these functions can be accessed however using menus or keyboard shortcuts, but much 
> > > can not. This is 
> > > certainly far from ideal, but I live with it because I like xfce's easy configurability.
> > > Maate does show the desktop icons and most panel appletts are reasonably accessible in the latest 
> > > release, mate 1.8, but 
> > > there are some focus issues that effect some people more than others. I need to show text to others for 
> > > my work, and the  
> > > display on this netbook is broken. When I try to configure an external monitor orca generally goes 
> > > silent until I close 
> > > the monitor configuration interface. I had problems with mozila programs on another distro with mate 
> > > also, but I will say 
> > > that Mate seems to be under very active development, and from what I hear XFCE not so much at the 
> > > moment.
> > > For these desktops you will need to export a gtk module by adding 
> > > export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN="gtk"
> > > GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
> > > to your ~/.xinitrc file, or creating a shell script with that in it in your /etc/profile.d/ directory. 
> > > Enable assistive 
> > > tech once xfce is running. It seems that most people get enough speech to do this just by exporting the 
> > > gtk stuff, but I 
> > > had to et sighted help to enable the assistive tech.
> > > When you log-out from either of these desktops you will need to kill off speech-dispatcher. So far the 
> > > tricks I tried to 
> > > do this automatically have not worked.
> > > --
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:42:58AM -0400, covici ccs covici com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to know if orca can work with xfce -- I am tired of trying
> > > > to get systemd and gnome-session to work properly, and would like to try
> > > > a desktop that does not make you use a specific init system!
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > > > How do
> > > > you spend it?
> > > >
> > > >          John Covici
> > > >          covici ccs covici com
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> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici
> >          covici ccs covici com

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         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com