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Re: [orca-list] Software Suggestions

I don't remember exact time frame, but was using chromium a bit, really just testing it, on Vinux4.0. 
I could not use it last try, but I think thisis because of update to chrome/chromevox that broke the 
speech-dispatcher support. 
Then again, if the debian issue you refer to is more recent than I am thinking it could be the problem. 
The more I think about it the less sure I am of exact time frame for my successful chromium tests on Vinux. 
It would be around the time when chromium and chrome were on versions 30-31 I think, probably 30 for chromium 
as I had the stable release/was using 
chrome-beta. 
Pretty sure the debian issue was before this, but please correct me if there's something new happening.
 
  
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 09:13:53PM -0600, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

ChromeVox didn't work with Chromium packaged for Debian flavors of OS
because it was compiled with an option that prohibited ChromeVox from
working. I can't recall the name of the option though. This wasn't true for
non-Debian flavors of Chromium, which is why you'll see Arch users talking
about Chromium and ChromeVox. I'm not sure if this has changed in the Devian
family of distributions recently.

To be more clear about the speech-dispatcher issue, the google folks say the issue is with speech-dispatcher. 
They disabled SD support, but one can 
still run --enable-speech-dispatcher to try it. It always falls back to a google-tts now for me, but someone 
was writing recently that it wstill worked 
for them. No more details here. 
--
B.H.




On 12/01/2014 10:58 AM, B. Henry wrote:

It may or may not now, as for most people speech-dispatcher is experiencing showstopper problems when 
called by chrome.
It may or may not be possible to use a google-tts now.
I did use chromium for a while to compare to chrome, but this was probably a year ago.
As I hear varied reports re the speech-dispatcher usability with chrome these days I do not want to say 
anything definitive, and honestly found no
reason to choose chromium over chrome/my foil hat will protect me from Google just fine.
I will say I have no reason to suspect that chromium will work well with speech-dispatcher as there was 
always a difference in functionality between the
two browser flavors, and chromium tended to have more problems and for example did not see all the espeak 
variants, only one's default voice when I used
it.

--
B.H.




On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:15:43AM -0500, Daniel Barich wrote:

   I thought chromevox didn't work with chromium but only with chrome.
   That was my experience.

   On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:13 AM, B. Henry <[1]burt1iband gmail com>
   wrote:

     There are many accessible applications.
     Look for interfaces that use GTK2 or 3. Webkit and many qt
     applications are also accessible.
     Thunderbird is excellent, but as with firefox when you have a
     realase that works fine for you keep a backup copy for it as well as
     the gnome support
     package for it and any language packs, etc as once in a while a
     version comes out with some major accessibility bugs. I'm currently
     using thunderbird 35
     something or another, one of the last tb35 nightly builds.
     I started using TB nightly builds because of a major accessibility
     bug in the stable release. I am not sure whether the bug has been
     fixed in 31 stable
     latest build or not. It should certainly be fixed in the alpha and
     likely beta releases. I think it was 33 when I first found orca
     accurately reporting
     the same message in the message lists as was actually in focus.
     For media players there are many accessible options.
     There is a GUI interface to mplayer that is pretty nice and is fine
     from an accessibility stand point. Totem, called videos in Ubuntu
     and other releases
     is accessible, but I do not like the current interface myself, and
     as with so much of gnome and gnome apps functrionality has been
     sacreficed to conform
     to an asthetic. I still keep it around as for simple playback it's
     still fine. Up and down arrows control volume, and you can advance
     and go back
     through a track with left and right arrows.
     If I had to pick one media player however it'd be VLC.
     Pidgin is the best GUI chat/IM client by far in my opinion both for
     its good accessibility and flexibility. There are many plug-ins for
     pidgin, quite a
     few come by default. If not already on the image you installed you
     can install the pidgin-plugin-pack for Ubuntu which has quite a few
     other popular
     plug-ins.
     It does not work for twitter. Get corebird for a GUI twitter client,
     but it's not near;ly as flexible as the commandline twitter app
     ttytter.
     Skype is accessible, but requires the installation of the 32bit
     qt-at-spi package for 64 bit systems along with the normal qt-at-spi
     for that
     archetecture.
     For SIP VOIP linphone is very good.
     Most people use firefox, and as of august I think it was orca now
     works very well with it. Make sure to upgrade to orca 3.14 or a
     development build to
     get the good firefox support.  I also recommend installing
     google-chrome or perhaps chromium with the chromvox extension. They
     do not read webpages with
     orca, but chromevox now works very well and can get at some content
     where firefox and orca have trouble, e.g. I need to use chrome to
     push a couple of
     buttons on a banking site.
     Mangler is a good ventrilo client, mumble is another voice chat
     option that is open-source and in Ubuntu repos, and you can download
     the teamtalk
     package from their website for more voice chat.
     --
     B.H.

   On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 08:24:04PM -0600, Edgar Lozano wrote:
   > Hi Everyone,
   >
   > I've been reading quite a bit of documentation about using Gnome, and
   > yesterday, I decided to take the plunge into a relatively simple
   Linux
   > distribution, Ubuntu. I had an old Laptop that I wasn't using, and
   > decided that it would be perfect as a dedicated Linux machine. In the
   > past, I've done remote Linux administration, and even programmed some
   > utilities to run on Debian and Arch systems. anyway, I've never
   really
   > been exposed to desktop environments, and was wondering what software
   > you guys would recommend I use for e-mail, music playback, web
   > browsers, chatting clients, etc. Obviously, I would like it if they
   > were accessible with ORCA. I would appreciate any feedback.
   >
   > Thank you.
   >
   > --
   > Thanks for reading.
   > Have a good day.
   > If you ever get the chance, go to [2]http://www.realrandomradio.com
   and
   > check us out.
   > _______________________________________________
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   > [4]https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
   > Visit [5]http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
   > The manual is at
   [6]http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
   > The FAQ is at [7]http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
   > Log bugs and feature requests at [8]http://bugzilla.gnome.org
   > Find out how to help at [9]http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
   _______________________________________________
   orca-list mailing list
   [3]orca-list gnome org
   [4]https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
   Visit [5]http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
   The manual is at
   [6]http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
   The FAQ is at [7]http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
   Log bugs and feature requests at [8]http://bugzilla.gnome.org
   Find out how to help at [9]http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

   --
   Daniel Barich
   Adaptive Technology Consultant
   Olin Library
   Kenyon College
   740-504-4935

References

   1. mailto:burt1iband gmail com
   2. http://www.realrandomradio.com/
   3. mailto:orca-list gnome org
   4. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
   5. http://live.gnome.org/Orca
   6. http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
   7. http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
   8. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
   9. http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

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orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp



-- 
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail
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orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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