Re: [orca-list] Your opinion regarding caret control in Gecko

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Hmm, so with this change, you wouldn't automatically switch to forms 
mode when entering input?

Any chance NVDA might offer any algorithmic help here? It seems to work 
reliably, though I don't know much about the different challenges each 
platform poses.

I wonder if a better keybinding might be in order? I know that, on my 
keyboard at least, F12 is one in a long line of keys with little to 
distinguish it, and I use several regularly so I don't have the muscle 
memory for it. NVDA uses Insert-space, but IIRC Orca already has that bound.
On 8/7/2014 8:52 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey all.
>
> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that heuristically trying to
> identify when Orca should control the caret and when Orca should not
> (e.g. in ARIA apps, form fields, etc.) is the source of quite a few bugs
> -- and it doesn't help performance because each time you arrow, Orca
> needs to do work to determine if it is handling things or not.
>
> As a result, here's what I'm thinking/wondering: What if Orca always
> controls the caret when that setting is enabled? This would be somewhat
> like forms mode: When you want to interact with a form control -- or an
> ARIA app -- using the arrow keys, you would turn off caret navigation by
> pressing Orca + F12. When you wanted to move around in the text, you
> would turn on caret navigation by pressing Orca + F12. Orca would stop
> doing this automatically.
>
> The biggest con I see is that the user needs to know what he or she is
> in and that this needs to be toggled. The pros are that it, along with
> some additional changes, should make it possible for you to arrow to
> anything and it would be more performant. And bugs like the problems Al
> reported would be eliminated entirely.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
> --joanie
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