Re: [orca-list] Sonar 13.10

[Bill Cox <waywardgeek gmail com>]

Manjaro, which is built on Arch, has a very nice accessible software 
installer that is a clear win for Manjaro vs other distros I've tried, 
though I haven't tried many lately.  The default XFCE desktop has a 
simple menu structure similar to Gnome 2.0, and Add/Remove Software is 
in the System menu.  I installed the latest Gnome 3 desktop, which looks 
pretty cool (though I still prefer Unity).  It looks very slick with 
it's 3D effects, and it has a good search capability, and it uses the 
same outstanding software installer.  On the command line, you have 
pacman, which is equivalent to apt-get, as far as I can tell.

A major difference in Arch and therefore Manjaro is that Arch does not 
patch very many packages, and prefers to ship packages with minor bugs 
in them rather than patch them.  This is a bit of a pain for general 
users - the work Debian and Ubuntu put into patching packages does 
generally improve them.  However, it's great for developers, since you 
don't have to wait for Debian and then Ubuntu to re-patch upstream 
releases, so you get them sooner.  Also, you're a lot closer to the 
current upstream source if you want to submit a patch.  It's also 
super-easy for developers to share stuff in Arch compared to Debian.  
For software hacking, I believe Arch derived distros are superior to 
Debian derived distros.  If you just want Linux to work, look no further 
than Ubuntu, unless you're vision impaired, in which case go for a 
version of Vinux based on an LTE release.  If you just want to hack 
accessibility code, feel free to join us in Sonar based on Manjaro.  
Hackers welcome!

Bill

On 10/25/2013 1:08 AM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> If it is using arch, how can I install additional software?
> Is there some command similar to apt-get install, apt-get upgrade etc.
> Is there an accessible UI package manager?
> Happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
>
> On 10/25/2013 02:53 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Also, sonar 13.10 doesn't use ubuntu any longer since accessibility
> > updates were coming too slowly.  Sonar 13.10 now uses arch linux since
> > arch linux has a rolling release policy.  Beta versions of sonar 13.10
> > used manjaro as a proof of concept.
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Alex Midence wrote:
> >
> > > Nice.  What version of gnome?  Is it 3.10?  Did you get all the stock
> > > libraries from the gnome3 ppa or is it just whatn Ubuntu has in the 
> > > main
> > > repositories?  May take for spin this weekend if I get a chance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alex M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of 
> > > Jonathan
> > > Nadeau
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:28 PM
> > > To: orca-list
> > > Subject: [orca-list] Sonar 13.10
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > Sonar Gnu/linux 13.10 is out! Sonar is shipping Gnome-shell as the 
> > > default
> > > desktop. Included on the iso is also the gnome-fallback desktop. On 
> > > this
> > > release we are shipping the fallback and shell on the same iso. So 
> > > there is
> > > only one iso to download. There are a couple of new features on 
> > > Sonar on
> > > this release
> > >
> > >
> > > Chromium browser is included with chromevox already installed and 
> > > ready to
> > > go.
> > >
> > > There is a new speech server called speech hub.
> > >
> > > Speech hub can be used with mary tts
> > >
> > > speech-dispatcher is still included and is the default but you can 
> > > switch to
> > > speech hub.
> > >
> > >
> > > If you wish to download it the download link can be found here
> > >
> > >
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/sonargnulinux/files/
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> >
> > jude <jdashiel shellworld net>
> > Avoid the Gates Of Hell, use Linux!
> >
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