Re: [orca-list] orca, squeeze vs wheezy

["mattias" <mjonsson1986 gmail com>]

Evolution in wheezy not work with orca
So what mail client do you use in wheezy?

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Från: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] För John G. Heim
Skickat: den 21 mars 2013 18:09
Till: Alex Midence
Kopia: orca-list gnome org
Ämne: Re: [orca-list] orca, squeeze vs wheezy


Yeah, the packages in backports do not undergo the thorough  testing 
that packages do before a release is moved from testing to stable. But 
there are times when those packages are just essential. In my case, I 
needed a 3.2 kernel to support some newer hardware.

Tomorrow it will be 2 weeks since I last used a Microsoft Windows 
machine. This is actually my third attempt to switch to linux full time.

The first time, I gave up because mail was too hard. At the time, 
everyone on this list seemed to be using evolution. I found evolution 
just incomprehensible. The second  time wasn't that long ago. But that 
bug with iceweasel drove me nuts. I probably should have asked about it 
on this list. But I just figured I was too busy to mess with it. But 
this time seems to be going much better. In fact, mail is probably the 
best thing about my orca experience this time.

I do have to restart orca 5 or 6 times a day because of that bug with 
bonobo. Sometimes I just start getting a message when I run a gnome 
program that says, "bonobo must be initialized before reuse". But doing 
"orca --replace" fixes it.

On 03/21/2013 10:48 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
> I once had a similar experience with squeeze backports.  I was running

> a project management web application called Redmine which is Ruby 
> Rails based. Anyway, backports upgraded one of its dependencies and, 
> after that, it refused to interpret the code on the pages and asked me

> to update some files.  I don't know Ruby so, this didn't happen.  I 
> had to go and manually yank out the upgrade to the component.  After 
> that, I turned off backports. This took me a while to figure out.
>
> For desktops I actually prefer Wheezy.  Having said that, however, I'd

> do some careful configuring before I upgrade.  I'd use aptitude for 
> one thing and not apt-get and I'd go into aptitude and turn off 
> recommended packages being automatically installed.  I would then do 
> an aptitude safe-upgrade after having changed my sources.list file.  
> The reason I would do all this fooling around is that my Squeeze 
> machine is pure alsa based for the sound server.  I have Orca, Speakup

> and Emacspeak on there and they are all working like a charm right 
> now.  The minute I upgrade to Wheezy, I have to worry about Pulse 
> Audio because it's automatically installed with Gnome-shell unless you

> take steps to prevent it.  Pulse audio would cause me to lose console 
> speech and would introduce complications with Emacspeak which I would 
> just as soon not have to wrestle with.  In spite of all that, I like 
> Wheezy because it has relatively modern packages and the issues you 
> described in other postings with Iceweasel and Icedove are no longer a

> factor.  Also, I like the gnome-shell interface.  It's more like 
> windows 7 whereas Gnome 2 is more like xp insome of the ways it 
> behaves.
>
> Alex M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of John

> G. Heim
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:25 PM
> To: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: [orca-list] orca, squeeze vs wheezy
>
> I've been asking about squeeze vs wheezy. Here's my plan...
>
> 1. Reinstall squeeze on my desktop.
> 2. Install firefox and thunderbird from mozilla.
> 3. Forget about  the idea of upgrading my desktop to wheezy
>
> So I think my orca problems in squeeze are being caused by installing 
> a bunch of stuff from debian squeeze-backports. I upgraded a bunch of 
> packages from squeeze-backports because those same packages are on the

> machines my end users use. I wanted my machine to have those same 
> packages so I would be more likely to be able to reproduce any 
> problems they find.  But I think I'm going to have to go back to plain

> old squeeze.
>
> But I'm still better off than I was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, I 
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