Re: [orca-list] Aria-hidden: confirmation in newer Orcas?

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

This is correct. It's FF that's broken.

Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> Hey Peter.
>
> > I am kinda surprised. I do have some serious issues with navigating in
> > epiphany documents however with epiphany 3.10.2, webkitgtk 2.2.2 and
> > orca 3.10.2 all test appear to pass for me.
>
> I'm not surprised. If something is marked aria-hidden, WebKit does not
> expose it to ATs so Orca doesn't even know about it. I think this
> approach is great: Don't expose to Orca what Orca should not expose to
> users. That ensures that Orca does the right thing automatically.
>
> I am pretty sure that what the Gecko approach is is to add an AtkObject
> object attribute, aria-hidden, to objects where it is applicable, but
> expose that object to Orca. As a result, for each and every single
> object in Gecko, Orca has to do an additional check on the off chance
> that object is ARIA and happens to be hidden. This is unperformant at
> best, and from what you are saying it's at least somewhat (if not
> completely) broken in Orca at the moment. Cleaning up and refining
> Orca's ARIA support is also on the to-do list, so hopefully I can get to
> it before too long.
>
> As a related aside, I'm curious as to what "serious issues" you are
> seeing and on what particular pages in Epiphany? Overall, Orca is able
> to provide better access to webkitgtk content (including things like
> text selection) with far, far less code. If there are instances where
> that is failing -- and from what you have said, clearly there are -- I
> would like to investigate them.
>
> Thanks!
> --joanie
>
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