Re: [orca-list] frequent switching languages

[Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes stommepoes nl>]

++ for lang attributes on HTML tags

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:09:31PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Albert Sten-Clanton writes:
> > ... my wife would like to have speech output
> > that would switch between English and Russian as needed on a site on which
> > there are things in each language.  In one of the Live Journal communities,
> > for example, somebody will ask in English about something they then put in
> > Russian.  Would you be able to read only one of these at a time using Orca?
>
> I'm uncertain whether Orca does this yet. However, Orca should and we
> should expect this will become possible at some point, if it isn't
> already possible.
>
> On the other hand, please recognize that there's a "chicken and egg"
> kind of problem here. In order for Orca to programatically determine
> language correctly, the document's markup should use available markup
> tags to clearly indicate:
>
> 1.)   The document's primary language
> 2.)   Inline language changes--identifying which language, and where
> this begins and ends.
>
> This kind of markup has been available for a very long time, but seems
> infrequently used. Is it used in the content you're interested in?
>
> I am interested in pushing pages commonly used by blind individuals,
> e.g. http://nlsbard.loc.gov, to adopt proper markup for this.
> Regretably, NLS markup leaves much to be desired in this, and other
> respects to date.
>
> Janina
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Al 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> > Behalf Of rj
> > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:41 AM
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: [orca-list] frequent switching languages
> >
> > Some time ago I asked if it would be possible to switch languages with a
> > shortcut key.
> >
> > I have found a solution with a script that replaces the orca preference file
> > with another one.
> > But you have to click an icon on the desktop, does anyone know how to assign
> > a shortcut key to a launcher?
> >
> > I made a launcher on the desktop for each language I frequently use.
> > That launches a script that replaces the user-settings.py file with another
> > one.
> >
> > You have to be familiar with command line to do this! And I don't guarantee
> > the howto is fullproof.
> >
> > 1 Make a directory in your home folder with the name Orca-sw (or any other
> > name you like)
> >
> > 2 You set orca to speak the language you want.
> > Then you copy the user-settings.py in your ..orca directory to the new
> > directory you have just made.
> > under a slightly different descriptive name i.e. fr-user-settings.py (for
> > french).
> >
> > cp /home/YOURHOMEdIR/.orca/user-settings.py
> > /home/YOURHOMEdIR/Orca-sw/fr-user-settings.py
> >
> > 3 You make a script containing:
> >     #! /bin
> >     orca -q
> >
> > cp /home/YOURHOMEdIR/Orca-sw/fr-user-settings.py
> > /home/YOURHOMEdIR/.orca/user-settings.py 
> >     orca
> >
> > You can do this in gedit and save it in Orca-sw with the .sh extension.
> > i.e. fr-orca.sh
> >
> > 4 You make a launcher for this script, right click somewhere on the desktop.
> > name it descriptively i.e. fr-orca  with command:
> > sh /home/YOURHOMEdIR/Orca-sw/fr-orca.sh
> >
> > you repeat the steps 2 to 4 for each frequently used language.
> >
> > Now you have an icon for every language you frequently use on your desktop.
> > just double click to switch to that language. 
> >
> > If you make changes to preferences in orca afterwards they will be lost when
> > you use the icons.
> > To keep them you would have to copy the settings file again into Orca-sw.
> >
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>
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