Forwarding this for the record's sake. This was sent to me directly
rather than to the list (no problem at all).
-------- Original Message --------
Nobody has put in a -1, so I'll be the first. Haha, just kidding. +1.
Awesome job.
On 09.02.2012, Robert cole <rkcole72984 gmail com> wrote:
> Hello, Joanie.
>
> I am in complete agreement with all of the points you listed. +1 from
> me! Keep up the great work!
>
> On 02/09/2012 02:58 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>> Hey guys.
>>
>> I have a new proposal for you. As the subject indicates, I am thinking
>> that the forced terminal-based setup needs to go. Here's why:
>>
>> 1. If Orca is started via GNOME's built-in universal access tools,
>> the autostart file we were provided (and are expected by GNOME to
>> use) prevents the terminal setup from ever kicking in. So in this
>> case forced setup is useless as a result of going unused.
>>
>> 2. If Orca is stopped via GNOME's built-in universal access tools
>> and then launched manually, terminal setup kicks in -- which is
>> not desirable. For one thing, accessibility support for the desktop
>> session is still enabled functionally. But the gsettings key says it
>> is no longer enabled. So we don't actually *need* to enter setup.
>> Furthermore, if you go through with it, the setup stomps on your
>> existing settings. So in this case, it's at best silly and at worst
>> causes you to lose preferences.
>>
>> 3. If you always start Orca manually and you are in an instance where
>> accessibility support is really not enabled, forced setup simplifies
>> things for you. However, it assumes that you have gsettings -- that
>> won't be the case for pure KDE and pure XFCE environments. And for
>> that matter for any other pure, GNOME-free environments. The
>> gsettings thing we can deal with via using dbus instead (which is
>> what I'm working on now for some other stuff in Orca), but:
>>
>> 4. If Orca determines accessibility support is not enabled and does the
>> forced setup, it does it by launching (or attempting to launch)
>> gnome-terminal -- which won't be installed in pure non-gnome
>> environments. So I suppose we could try to figure out from the
>> environment what the native terminal is, but.... This really should
>> be a one time thing -- and ultimately a no-time thing because:
>>
>> 5. At the last Accessibility hackfest, we discussed and made a high
>> priority getting accessibility enabled by default. As things continue
>> to get more performant and more reliable, we can do this. We're
>> aiming for GNOME 3.6. With accessibility support always enabled,
>> forced setup will never, ever be invoked. And lastly:
>>
>> 6. For the one time it is truly needed, you can always use 'orca -t'
>> in a console.
>>
>> So.... Personally I think this code is more trouble than it is worth.
>> What are your thoughts on this matter? Discussion and +1/-1 are highly
>> encouraged.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> --joanie
>>
>>
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>
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