Re: [orca-list] Orca, Speech-dispatcher and say-all

[Jon <j orcauser googlemail com>]

Hi Nolan,

I have reopened the bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572298

It does look like an sd problem, but we need to investigate if we can work 
with opentts/sd to fix it, or if there is a workaround that we can 
implement directly in orca.

ps, i managed to find the bug by clicking on your name in bugzilla, and 
then click on bugs that are closed.

Thanks

-Jon
On Fri 14/05/2010 at 07:02:09, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> I thought that I'd filed this or a similar issue a while back, but a
> search for "speech-dispatcher" reveals nothing. I'd do it again,
> only I'm not immediately sure whose issue it is.
>
> I've noticed, on multiple machines with multiple versions of Orca,
> that using SD to read websites via say-all causes strange hangs
> before some page controls are read. Specifically, if I read a link,
> there may be a second-to-seconds-long pause before the link text is
> read. This has nothing, or very little, to do with system resources
> as it happens equally on my AMD desktop and netbook. As I recall, it
> doesn't happen with gnome-speech.
>
> There's another odd behavior here as well. If I'm reading a site and
> try to stop a say-all by pressing ctrl, I can't seem to stop it when
> there's a delay in progress. Sometimes, especially before long lists
> of links, there may be a 10-second pause on my netbook, so naturally
> I want to stop speech and navigate past the troublesome bit
> manually. Only, it is impossible to stop speech unless something is
> actually being spoken. I guess that, during these pauses, Orca
> doesn't register that it is speaking and, as such, can't cancel the
> say-all.
>
> Finally, I filed another issue a while back wherein the cursor seems
> to jump around mysteriously in Firefox. IIRC a sanity check wwas
> added to help with this, and it mostly did, but the issue still
> occasionally happens. I wonder if it is related to this SD issue?
> Perhaps during a say-all focus is being moved, and when I enter a
> command during one of these pauses (I.e. ctrl-l) it doesn't cancel
> speech. Instead, it moves to the location bar with the say-all still
> running, then when the say-all processes its next chunk, focus
> bounces to wherever this happens to be. As such, my attempt at
> typing in a location gets interpreted as a whole bunch of structural
> nav commands which, due to the SN slowness, causes me to sit through
> a minute or two of Orca interpreting half of a URL as me bouncing to
> random page elements. :)
>
> I guess my first question, other than "WTF?" of course, is whose
> issue this is? Orca's? Speech-dispatcher's Python bindings? On one
> hand, Orca is the user-visible app demonstrating this issue, but on
> the other, it clearly handles say-all fine either via gnome-speech
> or when using SD to review non-rich content.
>
> Next, I'm wondering if this issue might be made a priority? I can't
> seem to find the original I filed, but at the time I think I was
> told that Orca's SD support was experimental and the issue may have
> been closed. If this is the case, I'm not sure why it wasn't just
> left open and marked for a far future fix, especially as SD is now
> becoming the default solution and this support won't be experimental
> then, especially in light of my recent thoughts on what other
> consequences this may be causing. Do closed issues not appear on
> search results?
>
> I'll be happy to file another issue if needed. i'd have done so
> already, since it would have taken less time than did typing this
> email, but I don't know where to file it. :)
>
> Thanks.
>
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