Re: [orca-list] ORCA improvements

[Alejandro Leiva <aleiva emergya es>]

Hi Bill,

El 08/05/2010, a las 21:50, Bill Cox escribió:

> Actually, the most important bugs in Orca tend to get fixed pretty
> quick by the Orca guys, but with the loss of Willie as a full-time
> Orca guy, there's lots of places in Orca that may need help.  I'm sure
> Joanmarie will know.  I don't muck with Orca code much, because the
> most important bugs are more often in non-Orca packages, and the Orca
> guys have kept their code pretty clean.
>
> If you're able to help edit code throughout the Linux system, I
> suspect you will find tons of work that needs doing.  Regardless, I'd
> be happy to help as far as non-Orca code goes, like with Voxin
> integration, which is more of a speech-dispatcher thing.  Here's a
> list of Orca/Linux issues I'm interested in:

I'm very interested in voxin integration, all the info you can provide is helpful for me :)

> Bugs
> ----
>
> Deal with Firefox/Orca problems.  Firefox rewrote the caret navigation
> and it has bugs that make
> structural navigation with Orca difficult.  The bug report is at
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546068
> We have a patch that fixes this problem, but currently it causes two
> Mozilla test cases to fail.
>
> Fix voxin problems on 64-bit Ubuntu Lucid.  We use it with
> speech-dispatcher, but the voice is garbled for some reason, only on
> 64-bit.
>
> Fix usb-creator-gtk.  Currently any Python application that updates
> it's widgets with a thread locks up the system if Orca is running.  I
> believe this is a bug in atk-spi-registryd, and effects several other
> programs as well.
>
> Make icons in icon tray say their names instead of just "icon".  There
> is a title property that seems to be read by Braille, but not spoken.
>
> Figure out why Orca is not reading upper case chars in a higher pitch.
> There's some problem in the Orca/speech-dispatcher interface.
>
> Improve accessibility of GTK+ TreeViews.  Currently apps using
> TreeModelSorted, TreeModelFiltered,
> or CellRendererPixbuf are typically not accessible, as these classes
> break the accessibility
> model.  We have a patch for this we're testing in Vinux, and a bug
> filed with GTK+: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617629
>
> Fix GTK+ so that we can do first-letter navigation in combo boxes.
> This would help sighted users, too, but is especially hard on Orca
> users.
>
> Improve thunderbird list views - we should not be loading everything
> at once when orca is running.  So, for example, clicking on trash
> takes several minutes to respond.

A guy from CIDAT told me about bug #321123 [1], what do you think ?


> New Features
> ------------
>
> Make evince accessible.  We need a PDF solution with Orca.

I know that another company is working in make evince more accessible. AFAIK they will support evince through 
orca, text-to-speech support and improvements in some features. I will talk with them to provide information 
to the mail list.

> Add "read to file" capability to Orca, which needs a speech-dispatcher
> upgrade to return synthesized speech rather than just play it.
>
> Thanks for helping out!
> Bill

Thank you Bill for all this info!

[1]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321123

Best regards,

> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Alejandro Leiva <aleiva emergya es> wrote:
> > Hi to all,
> >
> >        As I said in gnome-accessibility [1] we (emergya) are working on an interesting project to improve 
> > ORCA in some ways.
> >
> >        Our targets for ORCA are:
> >
> >        * Fix the most important bugs.
> >        * Saving and loading of user shortcut profiles.
> >        * Integration with other text-to-speech engines like voxin.
> >
> >        If anyone is working on any of these features or is interested in give feedback would be nice to 
> > hear from you.
> >
> >        For tracking our work with this and generate diff in easy way we did a git clone of orca repository 
> > on gitorious [2]. Feel free to join.
> >
> > [1]: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2010-May/msg00043.html
> > [2]: http://gitorious.org/orca-mirror
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Alejandro Leiva
> > Área de Proyectos
> >
> > Emergya Consultoría
> > Tfno: +34 954 51 75 77
> > Fax: +34 954 51 64 73
> > www.emergya.es
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > orca-list gnome org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

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