Re: [orca-list] Firefox 3.6.2 Majorly Broken!

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>]

For the record, we are working on WebKitGtk accessibility actively --
though lack the resources that Apple has, I'm afraid.

My goal is to get us to the point where the need for an Orca script for
WebKitGtk content is minimal, which should make it considerably more
performant than Orca+Firefox.

Take care.
--Joanie

On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:53 -0700, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi Steve
> What browser you use is less important than what engine it uses. Chrome 
> uses Webkit and, lately, everything seems to be moving that direction 
> (Epiphany, GNOME's included HTML rendering, etc). Yet Webkit has very 
> little accessibility support, save for the Macintosh where it's 
> accessibility is excellent thanks in large part to Apple actively 
> developing it there.
> Since GNOME itself is moving to Webkit, the accessibility support in it 
> needs to be seriously stepped up. This switch already leaves some areas 
> of GNOME, depending on what engine is compiled in (typically Webkit on 
> modern Linux distros), very inaccessible. Webkit accessibility would 
> mean not only access to these areas of GNOME but access to the majority 
> of GUI web browsers available for Linux and other *NIX systems. This 
> could include Google Chrome, but by no means be limited to it. In the 
> meantime, hopefully Orca can get a workaround for the Firefox 3.6 troubles.
> Don't misunderstand, I don't hate Firefox and I, personally, wouldn't be 
> likely to switch away from it unless I absolutely had to in large part 
> because of the way Adblock Plus handles blocking of ad content.
>
> On 02/03/2010 12:39 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:41:11AM -0700, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> >    
> > > Hi Steve
> > > I tried with the Mozilla binaries, which go by the regular Firefox
> > > name. It's still busted, and I've checked and the Firefox script was
> > > indeed loaded. Interesting thing is, I was trying to set up Firefox
> > > for a friend on Windows (version 3.6 with window-eyes) and a similar
> > > problem kept cropping up where by she'd be thrown back to the top of
> > > the page. That's got me seriously thinking this might be a Firefox
> > > regression of some sort. Not good.
> > > Anyone know if there's any progress with Webkit accessibility? This
> > > just further demonstrates that being tied to only one browser for
> > > accessibility is not the way we want to go.
> > >      
> > I agree.  I'm really not sure what other web browsers might even exist
> > for linux.  Not sure about chrome.  I wish the text browsers like
> > elinks could employ better javascript support and provide for better
> > caret or cursor navigation.  I'm really spoiled with the structural
> > navigation that is available with Firefox and Orca and also the
> > windows stuff with Window-Eyes.
> >
> > I guess I better get 3.5.7 to put back on my system til this crap gets
> > worked out.  Doesn't look good to me.
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