Re: [orca-list] Has anyone heard of this alternative?

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Its interesting to see some of the responses on this. I have to say I am 
uncertain of the best answer, however I would say where resources are 
very limited they may be better focused in one direction. However even 
when more than one project exist, as in this case, it would be good to 
see ideas and work pass back and forth between projects, much is in 
common (eg. the use of at-spi, the variation in how applications use the 
accessibility APIs, etc). There's a few things I probably will ask SUE 
developers, eg. why did they build on LSR when Orca was the gnome screen 
reader and I think LSR had been abandoned by IBM.

Probably enough from me.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Alex H. wrote:
> What I hope happens is the guys working on SUE and Orca can learn some
> new tricks and I wouldn't mind having two options for a screen reader,
> but if I had to pick one for the GUI I'd say Orca. Give it some speed
> boosts and somehow get AT-SPI to communicate with KDE, and we'd have a
> winner. Still, Speakup rules for the console.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
> On 3/31/10, al Sten-Clanton<Albert E Sten_Clanton verizon net>  wrote:
>    
> > I can understand the desire to have all efforts focused on a single screen
> > reader, but I suspect that we're better off in the long run if two or more
> > are in development.  You can never assume that a screen reader will keep up
> > with the times, any more than you can assume it about other software.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >    _____
> >
> > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> > Behalf Of Storm Dragon
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:25 AM
> > To: Orca-list
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Has anyone heard of this alternative?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Too bad we can't convence them to spend development resources on Orca. Orca
> > is far enough along to be used daily, it is familiar, works well for the
> > most part, and is part of Gnome. Other screen reader alternatives are nice I
> > suppose, but it would be greate to have a single reader that can rival
> > anything out there for any OS. While Orca's features out rank all other
> > screen readers, it could use a speed boost and it needs webkit access. Also,
> > it has to be able to keep up with new technology, so needs constant
> > development. So, it would be great to get everyone on the same page,
> > especially those with the ability to help financially. That is even more
> > important now after the betrayals of a certain company with whose name I
> > shall not defile this message.
> > Storm
> >
> >
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> > On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 01:43 +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have just stumbled over this while trying to find contact details for
> >
> > someone who I slightly unexpectedly found would be giving a workshop in
> >
> > the same slot as I will be giving a workshop. OK, the thing of interest
> >
> > is another screen reader for Linux, a quick look at the page indicates
> >
> > its based on LSR, have a look for yourselves at http://sue.sf.net.
> >
> >
> >
> > It raises some interesting points. Firstly its had funding from some
> >
> > part of the German government (I think). With the lack of support for
> >
> > full time developers for orca (I think we all know what I am getting at
> >
> > but I don't want us to get too much into what has been done), and having
> >
> > seen some of the comments in response to some of the blog postings,
> >
> > could we learn from SUE, could and should governments/organisations who
> >
> > are meant to help the blind do more?
> >
> >
> >
> > The other thing is, as resources in this area seem limited, while choice
> >
> > might be nice (one great solution is better than lots of incomplete
> >
> > projects), should we try and combine the efforts of these various groups?
> >
> >
> >
> > A different note again, has anyone tried SUE, how well does it work? I
> >
> > remember LSR, while possibly powerful, I felt possibly less well focused
> >
> > on the user experience as it seemed very general (I think I heard stuff
> >
> > saying it might be possible to use LSR as more than a screen reader, eg.
> >
> > to give people reminders to do things).
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> >
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