Re: [orca-list] Orca and Acrobat Reader not cooperating

[James Dietz <jdietz oberlin edu>]

Hi,

Google foxyfir; it's a package of blind-friendly stuff I ran across
randomly the other day.  In the document I found describing it it
mentioned several command-line tools for extracting text from PDFs.
There's also an article on the orca wiki describing a hack to get text
from PDFs using evince (I think it just involved hitting ctrl+a to
select all and copying it to somewhere else).  I haven't tried
acroread (too scared, especially since adobe flash plugin locked up
orca when I tried to install it through the firefox plugin finder
thing and I don't like adobe much on non-windows platforms anyway).

Nolan, Firefox works fine on the toshiba; I do get a totally random
orca crash sometimes (I'm using gnome-speech) but rebooting orca works
just fine.  I've bought a new eeepc (see my thread) and firefox is a
lot more snotty - crashes orca, works very slowly, plus when orca
disappears it doesn't want to come back until I reboot the whole
computer (rebooting X doesn't work like it usually does).  In my other
thread I thought this was a problem encountered when using Orca
normally, but I've localized it to firefox.  Speech-dispatcher would
crash to the dummy module (which is only slightly better than no
speech) and gnome-speech just disappears altogether.  I have to go
extra slow with firefox to get it to pretend to play nice.

On 1/29/09, nolan <nolan thewordnerd info> wrote:
> This doesn't help directly with your issue, but I have experienced this
> behavior with other applications, though I've been too lazy to set up
> orca's logging to help debug it, especially as I can't reliably
> duplicate it. If you can, though, I hope you file a bug report. :)
>
> Sometimes it seems like apps block all accessibility information. This
> isn't quite the "closing windows locks up the desktop" issue, because I
> can still use the desktop, and if I use my terminal hotkey, kill Orca
> and then usually restart Speech-dispatcher for good measure, I get
> speech back. I notice that it often seems to happen with Firefox, but I
> can't reliably duplicate it as you can.
>
>
> On 01/29/2009 10:47 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > Hi List
> > I'm experiencing this in both Ubuntu 8.10 and the 9.04 alpha. I've
> > tried both the packages from Adobe and those from the Medibuntu
> > repositories with the same result.
> > When I launch Acrobat reader the first time, I can accept the license
> > agreement. When I do so, however, Orca no longer speaks. Relaunching
> > Orca doesn't help, and the only thing that does is killing the Acrobat
> > reader process. From then on, launching Acrobat reader triggers this.
> > I've had the screen looked at and can verify from my system's behavior
> > that nothing is locked, including Acrobat reader itself. It seems
> > almost as though Acrobat reader is somehow blocking accessibility
> > information from getting to Orca, though I'm not sure if that's even
> > possible. I can do nothing with Orca until the acrobat reader process
> > is killed, but my system operates normally in every other way. One
> > interesting fact, and no idea if it's relevant, but I need to send a
> > sigkill to the acroread process, simply using the kill command is not
> > enough. This is with Acrobat reader 8.1.3, is there another version I
> > should use? Or is something else happening? Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
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