Re: [orca-list] Determining ,m5u ,%ortcuts1 and Flat Review Toggle



Hi Kevin:

Just a quick note on the intent of flat review: Flat review mode was designed as an "escape" mode for Orca users -- the preferred mode by design is focus tracking mode. For focus tracking mode, you just interact with an application as any user would (sighted or not), and Orca will do its best to present the information to you appropriately. When you encounter an ill-behaved application, you can fall back to flat review.

Having said that, we have encountered a number of people who aren't used to interacting with applications in the the normal fashion and immediately jump to flat review as their sole operating mode. The unfortunate thing about this is that flat review was never meant to be the primary operating mode and it also suffers from performance problems.

For discovering the underlined letter of an object (which is what we call the mnemonic), you can press the keypad Enter key in the desktop keyboard layout. This invokes Orca's "Where Am I" functionality, which includes the presentation of the mnemonic.

Note also that there's http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535221, which is yet to be evaluated or checked in, but which will provide an option to automatically speak the information when you navigate to an object.

Hope this helps, and Happy New Year!

Will

Kevin Utter wrote:
Quoting:
You bring up a good point. In myown two cents i believe the flat review
should say "Flat Review on" and "flat review off'''". This way you know
if it's toggling or not.

**I notice that it does sometimes repeat the word the cursor is on on
alternate presses.  Other than that, I can't see any difference in how
Orca acts when flat review is on or off.  I'm still locked into the
current window, and sometimes where the cursor actually is.  I can't get
away from the menu bar to examine the spelling of menu choices, etc, so
it appears that the command does nothing at all.

As far as the menu items you should I would think be able to hit the 5
on the keypad and usualy that should read the underlined letter in the
menus but I am uncertain of this for sure.

Keypad 5 reads the current word or object, so doesn't say individual
letters.  Keypad 2 does read letters, but it only reads the letter the
flat review is actually on, which doesn't tell you anything about any
underlined letter.  Is there another way?

Thanks all.

Kevin

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