Re: [orca-list] Only reason I won't fully switch

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi All:

Just a quick note from the Orca project lead.  While this thread has 
become somewhat off topic, I'm not going to try to squash it.  I am 
going to ignore it, however, and all replies to it will go to my trash 
folder without me looking at it.  If you have specific Orca questions or 
problems, please start a new topic with a clear subject line.  Bug 
reports at http://bugzilla.gnome.org are always welcome, too.

Will

Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> It only supports the first and second generation Nano. The fourth 
> generation, which is the one that talks, will not run Rockbox and isn't 
> likely to do so any time soon. None of the new iPods run Rockbox, in 
> fact, and the iPod port seems to have gone inactive.
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2009, at 22:05, Guy Schlosser wrote:
>
> > Doesn't rockbox support ipod nano? If it does (I know it supports 
> > nano, we wouldn't have to worry about itunes, and we could use orca 
> > the way we're used to. I have a sansa e260 that Rockbox runs on, and I 
> > love it. A little ot, but just a thought.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> >
> > Guybut not sure about 4th gen)
> >
> > Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Chris
> > > Currently, iTunes is the only app that can generate spoken menus for 
> > > the iPod. This is actually not an Orca issue, but needs to be 
> > > addressed by music player programs that support the iPod such as 
> > > Rhythmbox and gtkpod. They need to be able to generate these spoken 
> > > entries. I don't know if this is likely to happen, as I believe apple 
> > > tried to patent this and succeeded, so it would depend on whether the 
> > > developers are willing to risk Apple's lawyers coming after them. 
> > > Apple seem to be on a role with their legal department at the moment, 
> > > unfortunately.
> > > Secondly, VMWare is accessible with Orca just fine. It's a GTK 
> > > application, at least it was when I used it last at version 6.5. Both 
> > > VMWare server and workstation worked fine with Orca. Version 5 was a 
> > > bit iffy, a good number of the buttons weren't labeled, but this was 
> > > fixed in version 6. VMware for Linux isn't exactly cheap though, 
> > > unless you use the free VMWare server which lacks some support for 
> > > certain peripherals and is optimized for headless server usage. It's 
> > > Virtualbox that isn't accessible with Orca, as it's a QT application, 
> > > but you can still access all its functions through the command-line 
> > > if you wish to use it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 24, 2009, at 16:59, Chris Gilland wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not sure if I should a marked this as OT or not. In my opinion, it's 
> > > > totally Orca related, but some may totally disagree. Basically, the 
> > > > only true reason I'm not switching to Ubuntu at this point is mainly 
> > > > for two reasons. One being that I'm really unaware of a lot of good 
> > > > software for Linux aside what comes with the distro. Yeah, I know a 
> > > > few things, but not many. The other huger underlying issue however 
> > > > is: I have an IPod Nano 4th Gen, with the self voicing menus and the 
> > > > whole shebang. I love it! In any rate, being my Mac currently is not 
> > > > connected to the internet, I really don't use it very much. Though I 
> > > > have googled and read a little bit that IPods are actually supported 
> > > > in UBuntu, I'm still a little hesitant to do this, as I want to be 
> > > > sure that using Orca it will be accessible enough for me to do what 
> > > > I need to do to transfer things over to the IPod. I know rhythmbox 
> > > > is supposed to do it, and a few other programs I here will too. Now 
> > > > the other? possibility, even though it's kind of a poor man's aide, 
> > > > would be for me to run Windows in a virtual machine under UBuntu, 
> > > > then install ITunes as well as JAWS10 in that virtual machine. Corse 
> > > > I hear that VMWare's really not Orca friendly. This is why I'm kind 
> > > > a right now debating my options. I will say this though: in very 
> > > > many ways: I'm getting sick of Windows. It would be a good OS if it 
> > > > didn't crash on me so often, but what can I say: that's just the 
> > > > nature of the beast.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, if any of yall have any ideas, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
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