Re: [orca-list] Recent accessibility regressions
- From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
- To: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Recent accessibility regressions
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:30:33 -0500
Here's a bit more information:
When I use the "print info on current script" key, I get something like:
Script name=firefox module=orca.default application name=firefox toolkit
unknown version unknown
I'm typing that as I hear it, if anyone can tell me how to, say, copy
the last phrase orca speaks to the clipboard so I can paste it in then
I'd be glad to do so. But it looks like the correct script isn't being
loaded, which would certainly cause this behavior. Did the name of the
firefox application change in 3.0.3 such that the correct script isn't
loaded? I get correct-looking data for other apps, and it seems like
different modules are being loaded, so that's all I can come up with.
I notice that, when I load the app-specific preferences for pidgin, that
I get a pidgin prefs tab as normally happens. I still get the text
attributes tab twice, though.
When activated, the orca preferences dialog no longer has focus and I
always need to alt-tab to find it.
On 09/30/2008 09:13 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Last night I upgraded orca via svn and my terminal, plus a few other
windows, stopped speaking. Specifically I typed a message in
Thunderbird with very minimal audio feedback, and all I could do was
review the message line-by-line.
So remembering that Orca svn was intended for GNOME 2.24, I upgraded
to Intrepid. The upgrade itself went fine, and my system seems to be
running mostly well, with the exception of some accessibility
regressions.
First, the panels seem very broken. I can tab around, but I've already
managed to get into a stuck state where ctrl-alt-tab, nor any other
key combination, gets me out of the panels. I tried alt-tab, alt-f1,
alt-f2... Orca is still speaking as I can arrow back and forth between
a few items. I even tried clicking on the "get help on Ubuntu" item,
no luck.
Most disturbing, though, is that Firefox is now almost entirely
unusable. I can tab around webpages, but arrowing doesn't work.
Neither do any of orca's navigational keys, so I can't move to a
header, for instance. Carrot-browsing is enabled, but I can't even use
insert-z or insert-f12 to determine what is controlling the carrot.
It's as if Orca doesn't know that FF is running. If I start the
FF-specific preferences, I hear "Loading preferences for Firefox," but
I don't see the prefs I once saw for FF--rather, I hear the text
attributes tab twice.
Everything else seems to work well, and in particular I'm noticing
better feedback in Thunderbird now. My terminal is also once again
speaking. I'm running Orca 2.24.0 and FF 3.0.3. I've cleaned out all
my local installs, so I'm certain I'm not running an old at-spi or
something similar.
Thanks for your time.
P.S. As an experiment, I just did a make clean, then a fresh compile
and install of orca svn. Not only did FF still fail, but my terminal
and thunderbird regressed, the former not speaking at all unless I
used flat review, the latter only speaking if I arrow around or use +
to read all. When I removed the install and used gnome-orca as shipped
with ubuntu, the terminal/thunderbird regressions went away, though FF
is still broken.
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