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Re: [orca-list] Evolution Questions

orca gets speechless on debian rather shortly after start up and remains so until I run orca --setup again. The setup doesn't actually happen though. But orca starts talking like it was set up to do shortly after a little sound comes from orca on the sound card and the setup dialog goes away. Don't know why this is for me, but it may help you and others. Also on debian orca -t run from the command line cannot open Display 0.0 for lack of a protocol. I don't know what protocol it's looking for so cannot supply it with one. 



On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:


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Well, the plus and minus keys work good and I was able to access my
gmail account fine.  But alas, there are some serious loss of speech
problems with Orca and Evolution while fetching IMAP folders or
something.  I got into gmail ok but when accessing my local IMAP
server, it grabbed the entire drive over there and it hangs my machine
out to dry.  When I lose speech this way, I becom psychotic!:) I can't
stand it when it goes silent for an aganizing hour or more like this.
There has got to be something wrong here if one can't monitor the
progress.  If evolution is going to take several hours building the
IMAP structure, I want to be able to follow the progress to see if it
isn't really hung or something.

Also, this is another bug when opening some of the dialogs in
evolution such as the Edit / Preferences dialog, and you then alt tab
away to something else, you can't get back there.  Alt tabbing around
after that yields everything but the desired dialog.  Once that
happens, there is no way to get back in and it can't even be closed.
Also, some dialogs pop up with no speech what so ever.  Namely the
error when a connection to an IMAP server is lost.  I had a sighted
person come by and tell me that that was what was up but I couldn't
dismiss it for anytyhing in the world.  I some how got speech back by
alt tabbing away from it but then it would never focus again and yet
it was still showing visually.  But I could not focus it again When
these losses of speech happen, I can't even log out of gnome; I go
through the steps up to confirming that I want to log out but thenit
just hangs.  The only thing I can do to get out of any of these
situations is to ctrl-alt-backspace.  Thank god that doesn't go away.
Otherwise I would have to reboot the system.

When I restart x with the startx command, I then try to restart
evolution but half the time it just hangs again presumably trying to
pick up where it left off or something.  Basically now, I can't use
the stupid thing anymore because of the hangs.  I don't wanna whipe
out all the settings again but maybe there is a command line option I
can use to maybe disable an account or something.

I may be rambling here but my attempts to use evolution have sure
exposed a lot of major bugs or something.  These losses of speech are
serious indeed.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:26:02PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:

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Thanks to all of you for the tips.  I read the keyboard stuff a while
ago but must have forgotten about the plus and minus keys to open
trees.  I always used the enter key to open tree structures in
Nautilus and that always worked.  Thanks again.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:39:56PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

I don't know if any one else has answered this yet as I get the list
digest. The answer is use + (plus) to open a collapsed item and -
(minus) to close an expanded item. This isn't specific to evolution, but
it is usual for all GTK treeviews. You may find it useful to read the
gnome keyboard shortcuts as gnome while being very similar in some ways
to using windows does have some slight differences in keyboard
navigation.

Michael Whapples
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 11:40 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:

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I don't know if Orca is the cause of this problem or not.  Basically I
can't seem to open any folders under newly added mail accounts.

I think I some how got gmail working on it yesterday after a fluke or
something.  I have since rebuilt the configurations several times and
up to now, I cannot access gmail nor mail on a local spool.  I as of
now created two e-mail accounts; one is local spool pointing to
/var/mail/steve and the other is an IMAP connection to gmail.  My
gmail account authenticates fine by prompting me for a password and no
errors returned.  In fact, the subscriptions dialog in the folders
menu shows the gmail folders and they are all subscribed by default.
When I arrow up and down the list of mail folders, I see the first six
"on the computer and they are all empty except for the intro message
from the Evolution team in the inbox folder.  I know for a fact
there's a bunch of message available on my gmail account but in
evolution, the gmail entry shows as collapsed and I cannot expand it.

Here is my question; how do you open the "collapsed" folders? It is in
a tree table but left and right arrows only cause a beep.  Hitting the
enter key does nothing; the Alt-arrow keys don't do anything either.
So what do I do in this case?

Oh, I get the same thing in my local spool too.  Now that should be a
no brainer but again, the local spool box is collapsed and I can't
read the test message that I sent to it earlier today.

I honestly don't know how I got gmail over IMAP working yesterday but
it sure isn't reachable now.

Any ideas out there?
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