Re: [orca-list] Another newby, with some questions

["mattias" <mj mjw se>]

I can't agree
Orca are not slow
Ok it are slow with espeak but not with festival

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Hello, I agree with everything you've said so far. espeak is alright,
but I agree that orca is rather sluggish compared to a windows or mac
osx machine. I am also wonder how do people use orca everyday with this
sluggishness? I'm not bagging on the orca developers, because I think
orca is a great project,  and it has made great strides in the
accessibleness of LInux, I am or have been waiting for orca to be as
responsive as Windows so I can finally switch and this is making me
rather frustrated. Is the responsiveness of orca do to the python code
being used? I'm not a programmer so I have know clue about such things.
When using orca with speech-dispatcher and espeak, its just as slow as
with using it with gnome-speech. I wonder  if most people are using orca
with braille and do not encounter all these  unresponsive problems.

On 8/26/2008 at 18:53 JM & Angel said
Hello everyone,

I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks now, reading some of the 
comments, questions and so on as I try and get going with Linux. I'm
pretty 
new to the operating system, having used it a little remotely from a
shell 
in the 90s and learning a lot of basic file manipulation stuff along
with 
the usual Internet programmes. I'm using Windows for most things now,
and 
have wanted to get a machine and run Linux on it for a long time, so I
could 
tinker and learn the OS; maybe even ditch Microsoft for the most part if
I 
find that Linux works well for me.

A really helpful and knowledgeable person got me a nice refurbished
machine 
and installed Ubuntu 8.04 on it for me. She successfully got Orca
running in 
the Gnome desktop, but after playing around with it for a while I
noticed 
that the screenreader seemed very sluggish and unresponsive. I upgraded
to 
512 MB of ram from 256, thinking this might improve things, and while
the OS 
runs quicker in general I still find Orca almost excruciating to use.
One 
odd and possibly related thing I've noticed is that even though I have
both 
key and word echo turned off, if I'm typing a document or even entering
an 
URL, Orca seems to be trying to keep up with my keystrokes. It never
speaks 
until I've typed several characters, at which point it spits out some 
slightly garbled version of what I've typed so far. At first I thought
it 
was some weird software quirk, but I think, after typing a lot more and 
being quite distracted by this, that it can't be normal behaviour.

I'm using the Espeak synthesiser at the moment .. definitely far from
wild 
about it and I might be obtaining a Dectalk Express synth soon to make
this 
just a little bit more manageable. Another thing I noticed is that Orca 
seems to "flake out" at seemingly random times without any
justification. I 
might be browsing a page in firefox, or even in the terminal, or my
partner 
might hit one of the mouse buttons to do something quickly, and orcca
just 
freezes. The process still runs, but there's simply no speech. In order
to 
get it working again I have to quit Orca and restart it (it will let me
quit 
and doesn't have to be killed).

I know that this isn't much to go on really, but the sluggishness in 
particular has kept me from really tinkering with my new box as much as
I'd 
like. I have a lot to learn and right now am reading about Linux on the 
windows computer because it's so much faster and more responsive! I
guess at 
this point I am just wondering if anybody has any ideas or suggestions
for 
me. I've looked at the Orca FAQ, but I'm afraid I'm still at a loss. It 
can't really be this slow for everyone can it?

Regards,
JM

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