Re: gui design of nm-applet
- From: van Schelve <public van-schelve de>
- To: Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>
- Cc: networkmanager-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: gui design of nm-applet
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:50:03 +0100
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:55:35 -0800, Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 13:24 +0100, van Schelve wrote:
>> We are planning to rollout NM > 0.8 to a very! big number of mobile
Linux
>> systems. Our different usecases for NM are Ethernet, 3G datacards,
>> bluetooth based 3g and in small numbers wlan as well.
>>
>> Today we had a discussion about nm-applet in our companay. We are
worried
>> about our user get overcharge with the usability of nm-applet. The
>> biggest
>> painpoint we talked about in this context is way nm presents the
>> available
>> devices, available connections and the active connections.
>>
>> The horizontal separator should be removed from nm-applet. It looks
like
>> a
>> logical separator between different connection types.
>
> Hmm, the indentation was supposed to help make that clearer. The
> problem is that we do need a mechanism to distinguish between the
> "current" network connection for that device and it's associated actions
> (like disconnect) and the other available connections. Unfortunately
> we're currently stuck in a GtkMenu widget where we can't control the
> layout in a fine-grained manner without violating a lot of UI principles
> (since it is still a menu).
>
>> Maybe it could be a way using differnt font size / weight? Or maybe
>> indenting blockwise?
>
> It might work to make the "available" text in the line smaller perhaps
> to differentiate it more from the surrounding text?
>
What do you think about presenting the list in this way:
-------------------------------------
Wired Network
[ ] Auto eth0 (100Mit FD)
-------------------------------------
Mobile Broadband
[x] MyCompany
-------------------------------------
Nokia 6680 (Bluetooth)
[ ] MyCompany
-------------------------------------
Wireless Network
[x] Foobar (83%)
[ ] blahfasel (60%)
[ ] muckebock (50%)
Connect to Hidden Wireless Network
Create New Wireless Network
-------------------------------------
VPN
[ ] MyCompany (openvpn)
[ ] @Home (vpnc)
The user is able to activate or deactivate a connection by clicking into
a checkbox, or even better using a radio button because you can only have
one active connection for each physical device. The horizonal rules are
not
really necessary but I thought you like them ;-)
>> Are there currently any plans to polish the nm-applet?
>
> Mainly plans to stop using a GtkMenu widget entirely and move to a more
> freeform widget. That's not in-progress yet though. Until then we can
> certainly discuss ways to make the current menu-based approach better,
> especially if we find that users are confused with it. We should have a
> lot better data on the new applet too given that both Ubuntu 9.10 and
> Fedora 12 shipped with it.
>
You are right. The user will give response. But most of them do have a
more
or less technical background. The users I am thinking about are really
native
end users. They know their business application (more or less). They know
the
difference between eMail and a letter. That's it.
My problem is that I have thousands of them ;-)
HG
> Dan
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