Re: Elmer's

[Eric van Riet Paap <eric vanrietpaap nl>]

I would like to comment that having user's point of view is very  
important.
However, voting suggests that software development is some form of  
democracy, which it is not.
The main developer should make the decisions!

my two cents
Eric


On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:59 AM, Derek Frye wrote:

> I think it's awesome that you wrote code to support this, and vote  
> for its inclusion (in some community agreeable form) as it adds a  
> handy (and sometimes necessary) feature!
>
> My original non-support for this idea stemmed from thoughts that  
> it's better to have the limited human development resources focused  
> on other items (like wpa support) at this time.
>
> -- Derek
>
> Éric Brunet wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 09:12:10AM -0600, Tony Murray wrote:
> > > > Think leaving the computer at home knowing you will connect to  
> > > > it from
> > > > work. Before you leave you log in to establish a network  
> > > > connection.
> > > > During your trip, there is a micro outage of power, the computer  
> > > > reboots
> > > > without any problem, but as noone is logged in any more, the  
> > > > sshd is not
> > > > accessible. This is a problem introduced by NetworkManager and its
> > > > concept of setting the network up only when someone is logged in  
> > > > front of
> > > > the computer.
> > >
> > > The simple solution to this is start the NetworkManager daemon on  
> > > boot and have the init scripts initially bring(or try to bring)  
> > > up a network interface.
> > >
> > > dbus-send?
> > >
> > > Just my simple view from the outside ;)
> > Well, a shell script would still need the WEP keys for the  
> > network, and
> > it can't fetch it from the users' directories as they are  
> > encrypted into
> > gnome-keyring. Therefore, it would need to maintain a separate  
> > database
> > of available networks and, at this point, my patch is the simpler  
> > way to
> > go...
> > By the way, no comment on my proposed patch ? I have put a binary of
> > NetworkManager on my web page (http://tudia.nerim.net/nm) , for  
> > those who
> > want to try it without compiling it. It is now running on my  
> > laptop, and
> > it is a real pleasure to not have to wait 20 seconds after log in  
> > to have
> > the network up and running !
> > Regards,
> > 	Éric Brunet
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