Re: 2 questions...

[Derek Atkins <warlord MIT EDU>]

Quoting Colin Walters <walters verbum org>:

> > Actually, that's not true at all.  I could be in any of a dozen different
> > buildings at MIT, at my house, at Usenix or IETF or some other conference
> --
> 
> Yep, NetworkManager rocks for this.

Except it wont bring me up on the network until I'm logged in...

> > and I should be able to use my standard network login from any of those
> > locations. 
> 
> I completely agree!  The PAM cached credentials work should fix this.

but I shouldn't have to use cached credentials -- I can acquire real credentials
if I were just on the network.  I don't need to use PAM cached creds in this
situation.  I just need IP before login.

> > And I don't even want to think about the hell that OpenAFS would be! 
> 
> Most network file systems were designed before the roaming laptop era,
> and do not account for the network arbitrarily disappearing and instead
> like to eat applications by blocking them in IO wait state (hi NFS!).
> I don't know whether OpenAFS is similar but I imagine so.

Actually, AFS works just fine with changing the IP Address out from under it. 
In fact, I think it can generally even be started without the network nowadays,
too.

> I just gave up on network file systems like NFS for my laptop long ago.

Not me.  :-/

-derek

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