Re: Fwd: Safely remove option shows with Micro SD Card connected to Linux through an Android phone

On 12/11/2012 02:37 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, prasannatsmkumar wrote:

Hi All,

I connected an Android phone using USB cable to my machine running
Linux (Linux 3.0, 3.2, 3.5). Mounted the SD card in phone in system
(phone is just a pass through I guess). When I choose "Safely Remove"
option in nautilus file manager (gnome's default file manager) I got
an error saying

"Error detaching: helper exited with exit code 1: Detaching device /dev/sdb
USB device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-5)
STOP UNIT: FAILED: No such file or directory"

STOP UNIT means spin down the disk or eject the disc.  Since your phone
doesn't have a disk drive or an optical disc, no wonder this step

The reason it's likely doing a STOP UNIT on USB storage devices is that this is preferable for at least USB-connected HDs (at least where the USB to SATA, etc. converter bothers to implement the translation). For many drives, it's better for the disk's lifespan to power it down normally (as it would be if it was in a machine that was being shut down) so it can unload its heads in a controlled fashion, rather than just cutting the power on the running disk and causing an emergency head retract.

Some types of devices may not support that command or may not do anything useful with it, but "No such file or directory" seems a strange error to run into.

and it goes to unmounted state (yes it should go to and this is not a
problem). But I am not able to find the reason for the above error
message pop-up. If I choose "Eject" option then things are fine (I
think Eject does more than un-mounting the file system).

I think "safely remove" tries to cut the power supply to the device
but eject does not do that. Is that correct?

No, neither option cuts power.  The main difference is that "safely
remove" disables the USB connection, so that if the device has an "okay
to unplug now" light, the light will turn on.

If the device cannot be
powered down (due to battery charging) why this option is shown? Is
kernel exposing such capability to the user space?

I am not sure whether this is the correct place to ask this question.
If this is not the correct place please direct me to correct place.

You probably should get in touch with the people who maintain the
Nautilus program if you want to know why it does something.

Alan Stern

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