Re: [PATCH] Visual notification when opening stuff in nautilus (was Re: What is the official way to get an icon coordinates from a NautilusFile ?)

[Jaap Haitsma <jaap haitsma org>]

Nelson Benítez wrote:
> El dom, 05-06-2005 a las 12:27 -0400, Vincent Noel escribió:
>
> > On 6/5/05, Nelson Benítez <gnel cenobioracing com> wrote:
> >
> > > I ve tried it and the zooming boxes are so faster that I almost didnt
> > > noticed them, in fact I had to concentrate to view them and cause I know
> > > they were there from the patch,, I tried to launch a slower app like
> > > epiphany and zooming boxes "flashes" in the first instant almost
> > > invisible and all time that happens till the application appears runs
> > > with any feedback to the user to tell it the application is
> > > launching :(...
> >
> > Well I just copied the feature directly from the gnome-panel, so I
> > assume that you don't see that animation as well ? (when you click on
> > a launcher in the panel).
> > The goal of that animation is to tell the user something happened, I
> > guess if you have a very fast computer the program just launches very
> > fast and you don't really need the animation ;-)...
> >
> >
> > > I think a simple animated cursor to show in the "waiting time" could do
> > > all the job, although I know this maybe belongs to notification-startup.
> >
> > I think the "loading" cursor is there already, at least if nautilus is
> > compiled with notification-startup. Moreover, in some cases this "busy
> > cursor" does not work properly (if you open a program that does not
> > use it, e.g. openoffice), and on older computers the busy cursor can
> > take some time to appear, so the notification is not instant...
> >
> > So maybe this feature is only useful on not-so-fast hardware ?
>
>
> I think yes... I have a AMD 1244mhz

I have an old PIII 700 MHz and don't see much happening. Do I even need 
a slower computer or do I need to buy glasses ;-)

> > The argument when opening folder (visually link them) is still valid
> > though, so maybe the animation would need to adapt itself to the
> > computer speed, like metacity does (but this would have to be done in
> > the panel as well)

Adapting it to CPU speed seems a good idea to me.

> The "visually link them" point is good, and maybe you dont have to touch
> the panel if you only do it when opening nautilus windows (opening a
> folder...) so it would be a nautilus thing, but the disadvantages I see
> with it are whether the new window/app could show up later due to the
> animation, and second the amount of code work to do this...
>
> In the big picture, it seems that making "nice effects" like this to
> improve user experience would make the app slower in old machines, this
> seems to be a modern vs old support decision, but I think we have to
> stick with modern hardware because *that* is the present and future of
> the desktop (luminocity), people with old hardware can run gnome 2.4...,
> so when doing this kind of patch I think we have to take into account
> only normal hardware of these days... 
I think most people don't want to buy new hardware just because of some 
nice effects. People just want to get a job done in an efficient and 
user-friendly way. Looking at specific projects like memory reduction 
project [1] GNOME is actually focussing on trying to support older 
machines. Which I think is a good thing.

My 2 cents

Jaap

BTW I still think the idea of the patch is good one, but I don't seem to 
notice the change the patch introduced
[1] http://live.gnome.org/MemoryReduction