Re: volumes mark 2

[Alexander Larsson <alexl redhat com>]

On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 21:46, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> On ven, 2003-09-19 at 15:41 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> 
> > This is another proposal, which apart from the desktop is much like
> > the initial proposal. Except we decided that there will be no
> > printers, scanners or other hardware in the filesystem. The place for
> > such things are in the control center.  
> > 
> 
> Well, I'm not so sure. CC is good to _configure_ them, but a printer
> icon (or object) somewhere is very good to _use_ this device.
> 
> So, such as you could "$ cat ~/text_file > /dev/ltp0" on CLI, I think a
> GUI (expecially an object oriented one) should have the ability to d'n'd
> a file over a printer icon to print it

This is the one good thing about them, but I don't think that outweights
the negatives (that i've listed in this thread many times). Plus,
implementation-wise i'm not sure that is the best way to handle
printing. You'd need some magic to figure out how to print each
document, and many documents can be printed in several ways. Opening the
document with an app and choosing print is a more reliable way to print.

> > In the original email the model of the desktop was basically "place to
> > store some files and icons for commonly used places". A lot of people
> > want a stronger concept of the desktop than that.
> > 
> 
> Please note and remember that a lot of (Windows) users use deskop as
> "laucher storage" place. 

Most people don't use the windows desktop at all, because its full of
crap launchers that each and every application installs there. Its so
bad that XP even has an automatic desktop cleaner that removes launchers
that hasn't been used in a while. Lets try to not make Gnome do that.

> > Places like home, computer and network are easily reached from menus
> > in the nautilus window and the panels. I'd also like to re-introduce
> > the favorites system as a way to quickly reach commonly used
> > places. Favorites is more important in a spatial system, since deep
> > navigation is more work.
> > 
> 
> IMHO favorites is better then Go menu in spatial system. Go <->
> Navigation

I don't quite see how "Go" is navigation, but "favorites" isn't. They
seem quite similar to me. In fact I'd assume the favorites menu would be
in the "Go" menu. 

That said, the name "Go" might not be the best for this menu in spatial
mode.

> > The hard part about such directories like this is that they need to be
> > translated, and the apps using them need to find them, but the apps
> > may be running in different locales etc. Furthermore, it would be nice
> > if the directories could be renamed and things would still work. One
> > way this could be done is to place a ".docdir" file in
> 
> A .desktop file has "Directory" as type. It should be unimplemented
> actually. Is it a good/usable idea?

I don't understand what you mean.

> Besides the real trobles is when you leave the GNOME Desktop or a GNOME
> application. I.e. OOo or other (non GNOME) apps or terminal will use
> english/original names :-((((

Eh. The .docdir idea was made just to fix this problem.

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