Re: PATCH: Bug 82107, Turn off nautilus sidebar and location bar by default
- From: Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu>
- To: Dave Bordoley <bordoley msu edu>
- Cc: nautilus-list gnome org, usability gnome org
- Subject: Re: PATCH: Bug 82107, Turn off nautilus sidebar and location bar by default
- Date: 01 Sep 2002 12:43:27 -0500
Hi,
Just wanted to throw in that I agree with both of these. However.... If
you are turning the location bar off, you are effectively moving from a
navigation metaphor to an object metaphor. Opening new windows on double
click makes a lot more sense for the object metaphor (since you are
"opening" a new folder, not changing where your viewer is pointed).
-Seth
On Sat, 2002-08-31 at 13:12, Dave Bordoley wrote:
> This patch turns off the location bar and sidebar by default.CCing
> usability list on this to get there opinions as well. Below are some of
> my comments from the bug.
>
> dave
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> IMHO, the default nautilus look is to cluttered and can be confusing to
> users.
>
> 1) The location bar should be off by default.
> First, the location bar is a feature that is used by fairly advance
> users. Since it requires knowledge of the layout of the unix filesystem
> to be of any use. To a user new to unix, being able to enter in a
> location doesn't mean anything if they aren't familiar with the unix
> directory system.
> Which leads to my second point, though more thorough user testing is
> needed, I suspect that for the vast majority of new users (particularly
> windows converts) the presence of the location bar strongly suggests
> that nautilus can be used as a web browser (I've actually experienced
> this in practive). Currently the consensus seems to be that nautilus
> will be primarily a file manager and that galeon will be the gnome web
> browser. Based on this consensus, I think it is important to visually
> distinguish nautilus to avoid the misconception that nautilus is a web
> browser. (note yes nautilus can be used as a web browser with galeon
> view, however it really does not have the features of a full fledge web
> browser and probably shouldn't)
>
> 2) The sidebar should be off by default
> The sidebar takes up an enormous amount of screen space( about 1/5 of
> the nautilus window) while providing little to no general user benefit.
> The default tabs, notes and history, are not commonly used enough to
> justify using up the such a large portion of screen space.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> Index: ChangeLog
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /cvs/gnome/nautilus/ChangeLog,v
> retrieving revision 1.5500
> diff -p -u -r1.5500 ChangeLog
> --- ChangeLog 30 Aug 2002 19:03:43 -0000 1.5500
> +++ ChangeLog 31 Aug 2002 17:50:45 -0000
> @@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
> +2002-08-31 David Bordoley <bordoley msu edu>
> +
> + * libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c
> + * libnautilus-private/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas
> + Turn off the sidepane and location bar by default. Makes
> + the default UI cleaner looking (bug 82107).
> +
> 2002-08-30 Alexander Larsson <alexl redhat com>
>
> Branched off Gnome 2.0.x development on the gnome-2-0 branch.
> Index: libnautilus-private/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /cvs/gnome/nautilus/libnautilus-private/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas,v
> retrieving revision 1.9
> diff -p -u -r1.9 apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas
> --- libnautilus-private/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas 23 Aug 2002 14:23:14 -0000 1.9
> +++ libnautilus-private/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas 31 Aug 2002 17:50:51 -0000
> @@ -556,7 +556,7 @@
> <applyto>/apps/nautilus/preferences/start_with_location_bar</applyto>
> <owner>nautilus</owner>
> <type>bool</type>
> - <default>true</default>
> + <default>false</default>
> <locale name="C">
> <short>Show location bar in new windows</short>
> <long>
> @@ -586,7 +586,7 @@
> <applyto>/apps/nautilus/preferences/start_with_sidebar</applyto>
> <owner>nautilus</owner>
> <type>bool</type>
> - <default>true</default>
> + <default>false</default>
> <locale name="C">
> <short>Show side bar in new windows</short>
> <long>
> Index: libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /cvs/gnome/nautilus/libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c,v
> retrieving revision 1.204
> diff -p -u -r1.204 nautilus-global-preferences.c
> --- libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c 9 Jul 2002 20:57:12 -0000 1.204
> +++ libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c 31 Aug 2002 17:50:53 -0000
> @@ -417,7 +417,7 @@ static const PreferenceDefault preferenc
> },
> { NAUTILUS_PREFERENCES_START_WITH_LOCATION_BAR,
> PREFERENCE_BOOLEAN,
> - GINT_TO_POINTER (TRUE)
> + GINT_TO_POINTER (FALSE)
> },
> { NAUTILUS_PREFERENCES_START_WITH_STATUS_BAR,
> PREFERENCE_BOOLEAN,
> @@ -425,7 +425,7 @@ static const PreferenceDefault preferenc
> },
> { NAUTILUS_PREFERENCES_START_WITH_SIDEBAR,
> PREFERENCE_BOOLEAN,
> - GINT_TO_POINTER (TRUE)
> + GINT_TO_POINTER (FALSE)
> },
> { NAUTILUS_PREFERENCES_TREE_SHOW_ONLY_DIRECTORIES,
> PREFERENCE_BOOLEAN,
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