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>   1. Re: Translation problems en masse (Darin Adler)
>   2. nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch (Darin Adler)
>   3. Re: Translation problems en masse (Kenneth Rohde Christiansen)
>   4. Re: Translation problems en masse (Darin Adler)
>   5. Re: Translation problems en masse (Kenneth Rohde Christiansen)
>   6. GMC broke Nautilus! (David Fuchs)
>   7. Re: GMC broke Nautilus! (David Moles)
>   8. Re: Translation problems en masse (Darin Adler)
>   9. OT was: SVG icons (Chris Heywood)
>   10. Mouse Pointers (Eugene O'Connor)
>   11. Re: nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch (Frederic Crozat)
>   12. Re: Mouse Pointers (Havoc Pennington)
>   13. Re: GMC broke Nautilus! (Darin Adler)
>   14. Feedback ... (Lee Willis)
>   15. Re: Feedback ... (Darin Adler)
>   16. Re: Feedback ... (Lee Willis)
>   17. Re: Translation problems en masse (Kenneth Rohde Christiansen)
>   18. Re: Translation problems en masse (Kenneth Rohde Christiansen)
>   19. Re: Translation problems en masse (Calum Benson)
>   20. Re: Translation problems en masse (Kenneth Rohde Christiansen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:33:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: Alex Larsson <alexl redhat com>, Kenneth Christiansen
> <kenneth gnu org>
> CC: <nautilus-list eazel com>
>
> on 10/1/01 11:25 AM, Alex Larsson at alexl redhat com wrote:
>
> > On 1 Oct 2001, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote:
> >> I just updated nautilus from cvs, and it seems very bad translated in
> >> Danish. The PO file is almost uptodate. - missing 12 strings or so, so
> >> that is not it.
> >>
> >> The whole preferences/settings dialog is not translated at all.
> >> Also if I click on backgrounds and emblems, I see a lot not translated,
> >> like "drag a pattern tile to an object to change it", "Patterns" etc.
> >
> > I see this for swedish too. The preferences dialog is almost completely
> > untranslated, and parts of the "background & emblems" dialog is too.
> >
> > Dunno why.
>
> Both of these were bugs in eel. I fixed both of them, and a few
> other small
> translation problems in eel. I'd like to ask people to get the new eel and
> look for other places where translation isn't working. I think I
> got it all,
> though.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:40:48 -0700
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: Frederic Crozat <fcrozat mandrakesoft com>,
> Nautilus <nautilus-list lists eazel com>
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch
>
> on 10/1/01 8:55 AM, Frederic Crozat at fcrozat mandrakesoft com wrote:
>
> > Patch3: nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch
> > This patch adds support for JFS (this part of the patch was based on the
> > old version of nautilus-volume-monitor.c) and fixes mount error handling
> > (in short, we use LC_ALL=C locale before running mount to be able to
> > parse mount error message without any translation..
>
> This patch looks good. A few things need to be fixed before it can be
> committed:
>
> > -    if (info != NULL) {
> > +    if (info != NULL) {
> > +        gchar * old_locale;
>
> Declarations go at the top of the function in Nautilus code. At
> this point,
> we might want to put this into a separate function.
>
> >          open_error_pipe ();
> > +
> > +        old_locale = g_getenv("LC_ALL");
> > +        putenv("LC_ALL=C");
>
> This should use eel_setenv instead of putenv.
>
> >          file = popen (info->command, "r");
> >          close_error_pipe (info->should_mount, info->mount_point);
> >          pclose (file);
> > -
> > +        if (old_locale) {
>
> In Nautilus we use old_locale != NULL for checks like this.
>
> > +            putenv(g_strdup_printf("LC_ALL=%s",old_locale));
>
> This should use eel_setenv instead of putenv.
>
> > +        }
> > +        else {
> > +            unsetenv("LC_ALL");
>
> This should use eel_unsetenv instead of unsetenv.
>
> > +        }
>
> With those fixes, I think it's fine to commit the change.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: nautilus-list eazel com
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 00:59:54 +0200
>
> I will try to update tomorrow and then give it a try. I hope time allow
> for this. Btw, why is the preference dialog moved into eel? What is the
> reason behind that, or did I just get it wrong.
>
> What is the change that the "forward" and "backward" keybindings change
> before 1.0.5. The currently ones works OK for people with US keyboard,
> but for people stuck with a Danish keyboard that they are really
> terrible, and useless - my fingers just can't make that key combination.
> What about using Alt+arrow keys. This works well for Galeon.
>
> Kenneth
>
>
> On tir, 2001-10-02 at 00:33, Darin Adler wrote:
> > on 10/1/01 11:25 AM, Alex Larsson at alexl redhat com wrote:
> >
> > > On 1 Oct 2001, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote:
> > >> I just updated nautilus from cvs, and it seems very bad translated in
> > >> Danish. The PO file is almost uptodate. - missing 12 strings
> or so, so
> > >> that is not it.
> > >>
> > >> The whole preferences/settings dialog is not translated at all.
> > >> Also if I click on backgrounds and emblems, I see a lot not
> translated,
> > >> like "drag a pattern tile to an object to change it", "Patterns" etc.
> > >
> > > I see this for swedish too. The preferences dialog is almost
> completely
> > > untranslated, and parts of the "background & emblems" dialog is too.
> > >
> > > Dunno why.
> >
> > Both of these were bugs in eel. I fixed both of them, and a few
> other small
> > translation problems in eel. I'd like to ask people to get the
> new eel and
> > look for other places where translation isn't working. I think
> I got it all,
> > though.
> >
> >     -- Darin
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:06:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: Kenneth Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> CC: <nautilus-list eazel com>
>
> on 10/1/01 3:59 PM, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen at kenneth gnu org wrote:
>
> > I will try to update tomorrow and then give it a try. I hope time allow
> > for this. Btw, why is the preference dialog moved into eel? What is the
> > reason behind that, or did I just get it wrong.
>
> The preference dialog is not in eel. There is some shared code
> about making
> preference dialogs in general in eel. The nautilus preference dialog is in
> nautilus. This has been this way the entire time eel has existed.
>
> > What is the change that the "forward" and "backward" keybindings change
> > before 1.0.5. The currently ones works OK for people with US keyboard,
> > but for people stuck with a Danish keyboard that they are really
> > terrible, and useless - my fingers just can't make that key combination.
> > What about using Alt+arrow keys. This works well for Galeon.
>
> The key bindings changed? When? Can you find me the change log entry for
> when they changed?
>
> Once I know why they changed, I can answer your questions.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: nautilus-list eazel com
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 01:11:44 +0200
>
> it's just me making typos. It should be read:
>
> "What is the CHANCE that..."
>
> Kenneth
>
> > > What is the change that the "forward" and "backward"
> keybindings change
> > > before 1.0.5. The currently ones works OK for people with US keyboard,
> > > but for people stuck with a Danish keyboard that they are really
> > > terrible, and useless - my fingers just can't make that key
> combination.
> > > What about using Alt+arrow keys. This works well for Galeon.
> >
> > The key bindings changed? When? Can you find me the change log entry for
> > when they changed?
> >
> > Once I know why they changed, I can answer your questions.
> >
> >     -- Darin
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:20:23 -0700
> From: David Fuchs <dfuchs uniserve com>
> To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] GMC broke Nautilus!
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>     I'm new on this list, and I'm writing because I seem to have broken
> my copy of Nautilus.
>
>     What happened was I started a copy of gmc.  This caused my desktop
> to display duplicate icons and such, so I quit gmc, but it kept
> re-spawning.  I ended up disabling the respawn in the gnome control
> center.  I happily re-started Nautilus (it wasn't working) and after
> starting it, I noticed the following problem.
>
>     Once Nautilus starts, it displays all the desktop icons properly,
> and mouse-overs will still highlight the icons and such.  If I open one
> of the icons (single-click in this case), then it opens the appropriate
> window.  Now, I can open as many windows as I want, but as soon as I
> close just one of the opened windows, Nautilus dies.  It's still running
> if I check the process list, but the icons are no longer drawn (moving a
> window over top will erase the icon below), and I have to kill Nautilus
> and have it respawn in order to get the icons back.  Of course the
> problem occurs the next time I happen to close a Nautilus window.
>
>     I installed Nautilus as part of the Ximian GNOME packages.  I've
> since purged Nautilus and installed it again, to no avail. I've created
> new users on the system (which means new config files for that user) and
> even then, Nautilus is still broken for that new user.  I've also
> reinstalled 'gconfd' and 'oafd' as they somehow appeared to be related
> to the workings of Nautilus (ie: they had the same weird sm-client-ID
> tag in the process listing).
>
>     So, how did gmc break Nautilus?  Is there any way to repair this
> problem?  I hope someone can give me some advice...
>
> Thanks!
> -David Fuchs
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:15:24 -0700
> From: David Moles <david moles vykor com>
> To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] GMC broke Nautilus!
>
> Have you tried deinstalling GMC and Nautilus both, before
> reinstalling Nautilus? I haven't had any trouble running
> Nautilus without GMC, but I remember (like, several months
> ago) having problems with both at once. Sorry I can't be
> more specific -- it's a long time since I've had GMC
> installed.
>
> David Fuchs wrote:
>  > Hello everyone,
>  >
>  >    I'm new on this list, and I'm writing because I seem to have broken
>  > my copy of Nautilus.
>  >
>  >    What happened was I started a copy of gmc.  This caused my
> desktop to
>  > display duplicate icons and such, so I quit gmc, but it kept
>  > re-spawning.  I ended up disabling the respawn in the gnome control
>  > center.  I happily re-started Nautilus (it wasn't working) and after
>  > starting it, I noticed the following problem.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:47:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: Kenneth Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> CC: <nautilus-list eazel com>
>
> on 10/1/01 4:11 PM, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen at kenneth gnu org wrote:
>
> >>> What is the change that the "forward" and "backward"
> keybindings change
> >>> before 1.0.5. The currently ones works OK for people with US keyboard,
> >>> but for people stuck with a Danish keyboard that they are really
> >>> terrible, and useless - my fingers just can't make that key
> combination.
> >>> What about using Alt+arrow keys. This works well for Galeon.
>
> I'd be happy to consider a patch. I don't have any particular love for the
> current keys.
>
> As for before 1.0.5, we're currently waiting on a few more patches to get
> merged and then we'll do the 1.0.5 release, so we'll probably
> release early
> next week.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: Chris Heywood <psych primus com au>
> To: Jakub Steiner <jimmac ximian com>
> Cc: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 18:57:49 +1000
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] OT was: SVG icons
>
> hey, completely off topic, but I was wondering if someone could tell me
> what GTK theme you're using there?  I searched through the entire
> gtk.themes.org, and looked through the ximian packages and couldn't find
> it.
>
> you're work looks awesome, I is all this stuff (GNOME CC etc) planning
> on making it out of Ximian?
>
> thanks in advance,
> chris heywood
>
> (and what sawfish theme's that?)
>
> On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 01:07, Jakub Steiner wrote:
> > I forgot to cc: this discussion to the nautilus list, since that's the
> > way to get this thing implemented ;)
> >
> > Using SVG for icons has TREMENDOUS potential (automatically
> > generated/modified icons, using icons as a regular display output etc).
> > Apart from the speed issues mentioned in the attached mail, I am having
> > following difficulties with SVG implementation in nautilus.
> >
> >         * <text/> does not render
> >         * relative dimensions for specifying the text area for
> >           previewing text files (I'm confused with the bahaviour for svg
> >           icons right now - what size should I match against?)
> >         * combination of bitmap/svg icons (having i-regular-48.png and
> >           i-regular-96.svg doesn't seem to work)...
> >
> > I am amazed by the quality of the SVG render output. This is probably a
> > libart thing, but I'm very thankful for implementing this in nautilus.
> > Very very cool feature. One wishlist-feature would be to have only an
> > outline object when scaling the icon, but that's probably not a simple
> > hack.
> >
> > God bless all the cool nautilus hackers. You guys rock.
> >
> > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gorilla4.png (just a peek on how
> > sexy SVG can be)
> >
> > Jakub
> > --
> > -[ jimmac ximian com ]-[ http://jimmac.musichall.cz ]-
> >
> > "even a stopped clock gives a right time twice a day"
> > ----
> >
>
> > From: Jakub Steiner <jimmac ximian com>
> > To: Joakim Ziegler <joakim ximian com>
> > Cc: Plum Age (gfx) <plumage ximian com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ximian Plumage] status report
> > Date: 24 Sep 2001 16:55:00 +0200
> >
> > On Po, 2001-09-24 at 15:30, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
> >
> > > I agree. I was very excited about them when I first heard
> Nautilus would
> > > have them. However, I'm wondering how speed is when using a
> lot of them
> > > (and a lot of different ones). My gut feeling says it'll be
> slower than
> > > pixmaps, especially if the geometry is complex.
> >
> > You are right unfortunately. This does not have to stay that way.
> > Nautilus should (and to some extend it does, but it's broken from my end
> > user view ;) keep the bitmap rendering of the icon in buffer, so it
> > feels like a regular bitmap icon. My idea is it should:
> >
> >         * load the theme and render the default zoom interpretations
> >           (maybe one size lower and one higher for fater zoom views)
> >         * render only pixmaps from the buffer. it should perhaps check
> >           the state of the icon in ~/themes/, dunno.
> >
> > That way the load time would be slower. It might be wise to render only
> > the basic set of icons, ie, not care about the MIME-type stuff and
> > render those once it's needed, but definitely keep the buffer. I'm not
> > sure how much memory would be wated like this, but it would even make
> > sense to save to disk, and load later, instead or rendering.
> >
> > jakub
> > --
> > -[ jimmac ximian com ]-[ http://jimmac.musichall.cz ]-
> >
> > "even a stopped clock gives a right time twice a day"
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 10:40:11 +0100
> From: "Eugene O'Connor" <eugene oconnor sun com>
> Organization: Sun Microsystems
> To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] Mouse Pointers
>
> Hello,
>
> I am on the Sun GNOME documentation team. As you may be aware, we are
> creating documentation for GNOME that will be handed back to the GNOME
> community.
>
> I am writing a chapter for the User's Guide that lists some of the more
> common mouse pointers or cursors. I'd like to include screenshots of
> these pointers in the chapter. However, none of the screen capture tools
> that I have tried will capture the pointer (the list includes
> Screen-Shooter, GIMP, xv, and sdtimage). Can anyone tell me where the
> source files for these pointers are located? I haven't been able to find
> them in CVS.
>
> Please copy me on any replies as I am not on this mailing list at
> present.
>
> Many thanks,
> Eugene
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: Frederic Crozat <fcrozat mandrakesoft com>
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: Nautilus <nautilus-list lists eazel com>
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 14:16:20 +0200
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] Re: nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch
>
> le mar 02-10-2001 at 00:40 Darin Adler a écrit :
> > on 10/1/01 8:55 AM, Frederic Crozat at fcrozat mandrakesoft com wrote:
> >
> > > Patch3: nautilus-1.0.4-fs.patch
> > > This patch adds support for JFS (this part of the patch was
> based on the
> > > old version of nautilus-volume-monitor.c) and fixes mount
> error handling
> > > (in short, we use LC_ALL=C locale before running mount to be able to
> > > parse mount error message without any translation..
> >
> > This patch looks good. A few things need to be fixed before it can be
> > committed:
>
> > With those fixes, I think it's fine to commit the change.
>
> Fixed and committed (with JFS support in xml config file also)
>
> --
> Frédéric Crozat
> MandrakeSoft
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> To: "Eugene O'Connor" <eugene oconnor sun com>
> Cc: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Mouse Pointers
> From: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 11:24:32 -0400
>
>
> "Eugene O'Connor" <eugene oconnor sun com> writes:
> > I am writing a chapter for the User's Guide that lists some of the more
> > common mouse pointers or cursors. I'd like to include screenshots of
> > these pointers in the chapter. However, none of the screen capture tools
> > that I have tried will capture the pointer (the list includes
> > Screen-Shooter, GIMP, xv, and sdtimage). Can anyone tell me where the
> > source files for these pointers are located? I haven't been able to find
> > them in CVS.
>
> These come with X and are part of the cursor font. Try "xfd -fn
> cursor" to view them.
>
> Havoc
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 08:55:29 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] GMC broke Nautilus!
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: David Fuchs <dfuchs uniserve com>,
> Nautilus <nautilus-list lists eazel com>
>
> on 10/1/01 4:20 PM, David Fuchs at dfuchs uniserve com wrote:
>
> >   Once Nautilus starts, it displays all the desktop icons properly,
> > and mouse-overs will still highlight the icons and such.  If I open one
> > of the icons (single-click in this case), then it opens the appropriate
> > window.  Now, I can open as many windows as I want, but as soon as I
> > close just one of the opened windows, Nautilus dies.  It's still running
> > if I check the process list, but the icons are no longer drawn (moving a
> > window over top will erase the icon below), and I have to kill Nautilus
> > and have it respawn in order to get the icons back.  Of course the
> > problem occurs the next time I happen to close a Nautilus window.
>
> I can't tell you what's wrong, because I haven't heard of this problem
> before. But it would be good to diagnose the problem with gdb. If you are
> comfortable with that sort of thing, perhaps we can find out what's going
> wrong.
>
> It's not surprising that a bug could result in a hang in Nautilus when a
> window is closed, although I don't have any particular specific
> theory about
> what's hanging.
>
> Your message doesn't mention the version of Nautilus you are using.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> From: Lee Willis <lwillis myopenapps com>
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 17:11:10 +0100
> Subject: [Nautilus-list] Feedback ...
>
> I've been playing around with some of Nautilus' cooler features such as
> assigning images to folders so you get the image instead of the normal
> folder icon and picking fonts. So far I love some of the things that can
> be done, however I've got some constructive criticism (Caveat: If it's
> user error I'll be more than happy to be educated!)
>
> - When changing the font it changes for the sidebar but the main pain
>   stays in the normal font
>   (http://www.leewillis.co.uk/naut_font_shot.jpg)
> - Symlinked directories don't check the symlinked metafiles.
>
> e.g
>
> I have on my machine:
> /Noise
> /home/lwillis/mp3s -> /Noise
>
> If I set up per directory icons in /Noise and then go to
> /home/lwillis/mp3s it doesn't apply them as I would have expected them
> to. Obviously it's not noticing the symlink and reading the metafile for
> the symlinked directory. Is this bug/feature/non-implementation due to
> security issues?
>
> Nautilus is already massively better than when I first tried it, these
> just seem a bit "odd" given the intuitiveness of the rest of the app ...
>
> Lee
> --
> | Lee Willis                                Unmetered & ADSL solutions
> | Application Development Team Mentor              for Home & Business
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 09:41:30 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Feedback ...
> From: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> To: Lee Willis <lwillis myopenapps com>,
> Nautilus <nautilus-list lists eazel com>
>
> on 10/2/01 9:11 AM, Lee Willis at lwillis myopenapps com wrote:
>
> > - When changing the font it changes for the sidebar but the main pain
> > stays in the normal font
> > (http://www.leewillis.co.uk/naut_font_shot.jpg)
>
> What you call the "main pain" is the icon view. You can change
> the font used
> in the icon view in the "View Preferences" panel. In the section labeled
> "Icon View Defaults" there's a font popup menu.
>
> It's true that the icon view and list view don't use the default
> smooth font
> or the default non-smooth font. This is over-complex and confusing because
> of how font machinery is done in nautilus for gnome 1, and will
> probably be
> nicer in the nautilus for gnome 2.
>
> > - Symlinked directories don't check the symlinked metafiles.
>
> This has been changed in nautilus HEAD, so it will be different for the
> 1.0.5 release. I think the problem you are seeing will be fixed.
>
>     -- Darin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: Nautilus <nautilus-list lists eazel com>
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Feedback ...
> From: Lee Willis <lwillis myopenapps com>
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 17:50:58 +0100
>
> Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com> writes:
>
> > on 10/2/01 9:11 AM, Lee Willis at lwillis myopenapps com wrote:
> >
> > > - When changing the font it changes for the sidebar but the main pain
> > > stays in the normal font
> > > (http://www.leewillis.co.uk/naut_font_shot.jpg)
> >
> > What you call the "main pain" is the icon view. You can change
> the font used
> > in the icon view in the "View Preferences" panel. In the section labeled
> > "Icon View Defaults" there's a font popup menu.
>
> Cool, I hadn't noticed it ;)
>
> > It's true that the icon view and list view don't use the
> default smooth font
> > or the default non-smooth font. This is over-complex and
> confusing because
> > of how font machinery is done in nautilus for gnome 1, and will
> probably be
> > nicer in the nautilus for gnome 2.
>
> Fair enough ....
>
> > > - Symlinked directories don't check the symlinked metafiles.
> >
> > This has been changed in nautilus HEAD, so it will be different for the
> > 1.0.5 release. I think the problem you are seeing will be fixed.
>
> Marvellous, I'll look forward to it. Are there any rough timescales for
> the 1.0.5 release?
>
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> Lee
> --
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>
> Message: 17
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: nautilus-list eazel com
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 19:13:20 +0200
>
> Well this seems more complicated that expected :( editing
> nautilus-shell.ui.xml and changing the bindings to "*Alt*leftarrow" etc
> was easy, but the icon view for one, lets you move between icons with
> left and right AND ALSO while Alt is pressed :/ which makes it
> impossible to use without fixing this. It also didn't seem to work for
> web browsing for a reason I didn't figure yet.
>
> Kenneth
>
> On tir, 2001-10-02 at 07:47, Darin Adler wrote:
> > on 10/1/01 4:11 PM, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen at kenneth gnu org wrote:
> >
> > >>> What is the change that the "forward" and "backward"
> keybindings change
> > >>> before 1.0.5. The currently ones works OK for people with
> US keyboard,
> > >>> but for people stuck with a Danish keyboard that they are really
> > >>> terrible, and useless - my fingers just can't make that key
> combination.
> > >>> What about using Alt+arrow keys. This works well for Galeon.
> >
> > I'd be happy to consider a patch. I don't have any particular
> love for the
> > current keys.
> >
> > As for before 1.0.5, we're currently waiting on a few more
> patches to get
> > merged and then we'll do the 1.0.5 release, so we'll probably
> release early
> > next week.
> >
> >     -- Darin
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 18
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> To: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>
> Cc: nautilus-list eazel com
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 19:15:29 +0200
>
> speaking of my last letter. The same problem happens with Ctrl and arrow
> keys :(
>
> Kenneth
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 18:51:14 +0100
> From: Calum Benson <calum benson sun com>
> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland
> To: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> CC: Darin Adler <darin bentspoon com>, nautilus-list eazel com
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
>
> Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > speaking of my last letter. The same problem happens with Ctrl and arrow
> > keys :(
>
> You could always try the Microsoft Exlporer shortcuts for back and
> forward instead... Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+].  I've no idea how well that maps
> onto other keyboard layouts, though...
>
> (Whatever you end up choosing, I'd personally prefer it was
> Ctrl+something rather than Alt+something, for consistency with all the
> other GNOME application shortcuts.)
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.
>
> --
> CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer       Sun Microsystems Ireland
> mailto:calum benson ireland sun com    Desktop Engineering Group
> http://www.sun.ie                      +353 1 819 9771
>
> Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 20
> Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Translation problems en masse
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth gnu org>
> To: Calum Benson <calum benson sun com>
> Cc: nautilus-list eazel com
> <1002042929 1355 8 camel llephaane bergsoe dtu dk>
> <3BB9FE92 BFC3F9B1 sun com>
> Date: 02 Oct 2001 19:53:35 +0200
>
> Hmm, that is not Danish Internet Explorer, since that uses alt+arrow key
> here. Ctrl+] is what is used today. This means that I need to press the
> following:
>
> Ctrl+Alt Gr+8 - that is something that you just don't do.
>
> Kenneth
>
>
> On tir, 2001-10-02 at 19:51, Calum Benson wrote:
> > Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote:
> > >
> > > speaking of my last letter. The same problem happens with
> Ctrl and arrow
> > > keys :(
> >
> > You could always try the Microsoft Exlporer shortcuts for back and
> > forward instead... Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+].  I've no idea how well that maps
> > onto other keyboard layouts, though...
> >
> > (Whatever you end up choosing, I'd personally prefer it was
> > Ctrl+something rather than Alt+something, for consistency with all the
> > other GNOME application shortcuts.)
> >
> > Cheeri,
> > Calum.
> >
> > --
> > CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer       Sun Microsystems Ireland
> > mailto:calum benson ireland sun com    Desktop Engineering Group
> > http://www.sun.ie                      +353 1 819 9771
> >
> > Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems
>
>
>
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