RE: [Nautilus-list] Status...

["Tom Musgrove" <TomM pentstar com>]

Hi all,

I think this would be a great feature to have.
A possible implementation might be to have a list of the 'types' of action
the user did

ie

Delete text
Insert Image
Type new text
Insert New Image over another image
change background color
Change font

Then, for linear Undo/Redo use the typical button, thus undo would change
the font back in this example.
For the advanced version, scroll to the item to be undone/redone (ie right
click>undo>listChange_font), and then have a comparison window show the
before/after version of the action (assuming the user holds down the button
for an added second, or another submenu >[compare,apply]).

I'd agree that this could be a pain to implement, and will likely have a
couple of cases where there are going to be ambiguities or results that are
contrary to a linear undo.

A related idea is the multicopy/paste, which can be found in Outlook 2000
(the Macs scrapbook was a similar idea that was implemented much
earlier...).  However, instead of the copy clipboard as implemented by MS,
which gives no context about the item, nor the scrapbook as implemented on
the Mac, which only showed one item at a time.  It might be cool to have
thumbnailed page of the assorted copied content.  I also like the 'paste
all' that the Outlook clipboard has, thus one can copy the material in the
order you want it pasted, and have it all pasted into order in a single
command.

Tom M.
TomM Pentstar com

-----Original Message-----
From: nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com
[mailto:nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com]On Behalf Of Calum Benson
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:46 AM
To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
Cc: John Sullivan
Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Status...


John Sullivan wrote:

> Okay, that's an interesting area for discussion, but it is sort of
twisting
> the subject away from your original question about "why not just use Undo
> for delete instead of the Trash?".

Well, that wasn't quite what I was asking... although it's been a long
day, so it might have come out that way!  I wouldn't do away with the
trashcan feature by any means... after the little shred v. delete
diversion, I was more musing on the opposite question of why undoing a
delete (via the trashcan metaphor) was all that different from undoing
anything else.  But I think we've exhausted that little discussion topic
for now...

> Have you seen the Photoshop "History" feature? It, combined with the
> "History Brush" tool, is very much along the lines of your suggestion. It
is
> a pretty advanced feature though -- probably the biggest challenge in any
> such design is making it comprehensible to non-super-experts.

Yes, I've seen it and used it... and you're right, it's not the most
obvious thing in the world to use.  Mind you, that goes for a lot of
Photoshop features, not just that one!

Cheeri,
Calum.

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