Re: [Muine] album/song suggestion

[Jorn Baayen <jbaayen gnome org>]

Here's a mockup for an "expand playlist" feature...
http://www.jbaayen.dds.nl/expand.png

Not necessarily trivial to implement though, as the stock expander
widget doesnt support what i'm trying to do there.


Cheers,

Jorn

On L, 2005-02-19 at 17:38 +0200, Jorn Baayen wrote:
> On L, 2005-02-19 at 15:58 +0200, Yo'av Moshe wrote:
> > As for the arrow, I'm a big fan of the idea too.
> > 
> > I don't like having the arrow on the right though, it seems a bit strange.
> > Think of a real note someone's writing:
> >  - bla bla:
> >  -- bla bla bla
> >  -- bla bla bla
> >  - bla:
> >  -- bla bla bla bla
> > 
> > How would it look if someone wrote it like this:
> >  bla bla - : 
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > The reason it is on the left is because that's the logical way.
> 
> I was more thinking of making it a separate widget on the right edge of
> the screen. So it would like like:
> Playlist (XX remaining)                    V
> 
> > However, I don't see how the arrow-on-left breaks the eye scanning.
> 
> Right now, if you scan straight down, you can immediately see what is
> there. However, in the case of the arrow, you'd have to scan to the
> right as well.
> 
> Jorn
> 
> > 
> > Yo'av.
> > 
> > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:20:34 +0200, Jorn Baayen <jbaayen gnome org> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On R, 2005-02-18 at 14:31 -0800, justin+gnome dicatek com wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > (This should probably be a reply to "A few suggestions" but I just
> > > > subscribed to the list so I don't have it in my mail. Sorry...)
> > > 
> > > Welcome ;)
> > > 
> > > > It seems like one problem is the separation between albums and songs. A
> > > > separate problem that I have is that I listen mainly to classical music,
> > > > where the most important piece of information is the composer/artist which
> > > > is not shown in the playlist. Also often one album will have many many
> > > > tracks, which makes the playlist very long.
> > > 
> > > This depends on how you tag your files..
> > > 
> > > I listen to a lot of classical music as well, and tend to put the
> > > composer into "artist" and performers into "performer".
> > > 
> > > > My suggestion is for lists of music: have a list item with artist and
> > > > title and a picture of the CD, and below that, list each track on a
> > > > *single* line. So you're listing individual songs, but grouping by album.
> > > >
> > > > Something like this:
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > ******* J.S. Bach
> > > > **pic** Goldberg Variations
> > > > *******
> > > > *******
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > Aria
> > > > Variation 1
> > > > Variation 2
> > > > Variation 3. Canon On The Unison
> > > > Variation 4
> > > > etc.
> > > > Variation 30. Quodlibet
> > > > Aria Da Capa
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > ******* Beethoven
> > > > **pic** Symphony No. 9
> > > > *******
> > > > *******
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestroso
> > > > Molto vivace
> > > > Adagio molto e cantabile
> > > > Presto
> > > > Presto
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the length of the track could be listed on the right. If there's
> > > > only a single song from an album, you could just put the song name in the
> > > > list item for the album.
> > > >
> > > > Either the entire album could be selected, or individual tracks can be
> > > > selected.
> > > >
> > > > If there is a good way to show and hide the individual tracks (perhaps
> > > > only show tracks when the album is selected? Or on a search which matches
> > > > tracks...) then the "Play Song" and "Play Album" windows could be merged
> > > > to "Select Music" or something. Also this would help with my problem of
> > > > having a really long playlist.
> > > 
> > > I think this would probably end up being rather chaotic ..
> > > 
> > > Also, it is technically not very feasible.. as the rows will have
> > > variable height, which will disallow us to use treeview's "fixed height
> > > mode".. making it very slow for bigger collections.
> > > 
> > > > Another unrelated suggestion: one of those rotating arrow widgets to
> > > > show/hide the playlist in the main window would be convenient, so that I
> > > > could leave Muine up but not take up too much screen space.
> > > 
> > > This has come up a lot .. so far I've decided not to add it. A patch
> > > is here though:
> > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162316
> > > 
> > > Right now it is very easy to see the structure of the window by scanning
> > > your eye along the left edge of the window. The main actual reason why
> > > I'm not commiting th expander is because the arrow in front of the
> > > "Playlist" label shifts the label a few pixels to the right. By that the
> > > "eye scanning" breaks.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise, I see it is a fairly useful feature to have. Having a small
> > > expander arrow on the right might work though, never thought of that
> > > before. I'll look into it.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Jorn
> > > 
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