Re: GNOME 2.20 release notes

["Quim Gil" <qgil gnome org>]

As the maintainer of a distro with a strong and explicit focus in
GNOME you will appreciate a page where to point your users, yes. But
aren't Foresight users falling mostly in the audiences I'm suggesting?
Wouldn't they enjoy be treated as power users, developers and the
like?
This would apply to advanced users or developers using Ubuntu, Debian,
Fedora etc. They are anyway receiving our news through the channels
they listen. But we can forget about targeting directly regular users
and sysadmins, and even regular journalists.
We need to be sure where is the GNOME foot standing, who is smelling
it and who will speak about its beauty and its power to wider
audiences.

On 8/2/07, Ken VanDine <ken vandine org> wrote:
> I don't completely agree, as a distro maintainer that will be
> delivering 2.20 on 2.20 release day, our users want to read about it.
> We should write that content, not the distro.  It is less interesting
> for users of other distros that take much longer to integrate the new
> version, but even those could use that content when they do release
> it.  Perhaps it is something that we package and include with gnome so
> when users get the update they have a way to see the release notes...
> just an idea.
>
> --Ken
>
> On 8/2/07, Quim Gil <qgil gnome org> wrote:
> > On 8/2/07, Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com> wrote:
> >
> > > I also want to try putting everything on one page, but I still plan to
> > > use the docbook translation system. We have no other way to do
> > > translation at the moment, and it does work well.
> >
> > Yes, yes, I wasn't questioning the use of DocBook. I only meant that
> > creating one page per language + external links gives less work with
> > DocBook than creating the 5-6 we have done until now.
> >
> >
> > > > (*) Taking in account these customers:
> > > >
> > > > Application developers
> > > > Platform developers
> > > > Software integrators and distributors
> > > > Key software deployers (i.e. public administrations)
> > > > Software & Freedom enthusiasts
> > > > Tech press
> > > > End users at large: not a target
> >
> > Please don't overlook the targeted audience of the release notes I'm
> > proposing here (specially the last line with the "not a target"). It
> > contradicts radically what we have been doing until now, and what
> > seems to be still the current plan.
> >
> >
> > > Jorge has started a draft of the main text here:
> > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes/Draft
> >
> > "The intended audience is the typical end-user."
> > "For Administrators"
> >
> > I think we have been doing this mistake for so long. The day we
> > release GNOME 2.20 it is interesting for developers (the current GNOME
> > developers, the wider GTK+ context, the free software context and
> > other developers specialized in non-free environments increasingly
> > interested in what we do). It is also interesting for distros, OEMs,
> > engineers involved in big deployments with intense/customized use of
> > GNOME,  power users and the specialized press.
> >
> > Not the typical end user and probably not the average sysadmin either,
> > since they are following the distros (if they do follow them).
> >
> >
> > > Jorge, please note that I plan for us to use the Users, Developers,
> > > Administrators structure that we had in 2.14 here:
> > > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/
> > > You seem to be doing almost that already in your draft.
> >
> > I think this is a way to repeat the same mistakes every six months.
> > One page with the main flashes. There are not so many, we can create a
> > good effect in a single shot but split the message in different pages
> > (most of them with almost void content) is a waste of energy that
> > makes nobody happy.
> >
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>
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> Ken VanDine
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>


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