Re: [Usability]Re: [HIG] Label alignment

Just one suggestion, before formally releasing 1.0 it may be worthwhile to 
scan through bugzilla to check for any simple fixes. one example i can think 
of is specifying that stop and reload should be in the view menu. This was 
discussed in bug 83653, and both nautilus and galeon implement this now. There 
are other easy bugs that can be fixed pretty easily as well.


ps. I would love to help too, but im in europe till thursday and computer 
access is unfortunately few and far between.

Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu> said:

> > Note also that I fully hope and expect Coleen's sections (along with
> > everybody else's) to be subject to a final rigorous review and editing
> > before we go live with a 1.0 HIG release... however it seemed like the
> > easiest way to make them available for this process was just to convert
> > and integrate them for now.
> Probably not, other than what you or I provide. At this point the most
> effective thing we can do with the HIG is not get it perfect, but get it
> out. I'm looking at release in about 1-1.5 weeks now. We can release 1.2
> in two months after we get a bunch of reviews and change some things.
> Its important to remember that our work situation differs substantially
> from, say, the Java guidelines, Apple guidelines, or Microsoft
> guidelines. Big companies publish a spec, go to a lot of trouble to
> publish a book, and then people can stamp "HIG 1 compliant" on their
> products. By the very nature of this they can only change the spec every
> couple of years without getting people mad. Also, because they have
> virtually no interaction with most of the specification's users, its
> hard to make changes in an effecient manner once momentuum has begun.
> I expect the HIG to work more like a "GNOME best usability practices"
> document for the near future rather than a rigid formal
> specification[1]. We will inevitably change items, and where we make
> changes we can go through the desktop and file bugs where they need to
> be filed, attach patches where the changes can be done in glade, and
> suggest changes to maintainers where they are on IRC. In Free Software
> the first few releases of something (even libraries) change quickly, and
> morph until they solidify.
> What I'd like to see is a 1.0 release that throws most of the content
> into something presentable enough to post an announcement on the web
> site and major mailing lists, and then releases every month or two to
> reflect changes, decisions, additions, etc. I'd also like to consider
> conducting post-2.0 HIG stuff on usability@ rather than a small private
> list like this one. This would probably slow it down, but might bait
> some worthwhile contributions, would get more people thinking about the
> issues and problems (so maybe we'll get some ideas off that), but most
> importantly will provide some usability education to list members.
> -Seth
> [1] of course I don't intend to preclude beating reticent maintainers
> over the head with it *wink*
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