[guadec-list] Tr: Registration payment [was: Drupal test]

[Ludovic Danigo <ldanigo yahoo fr>]

It seems it got lost or something, resending it.

--- Ludovic Danigo <ldanigo yahoo fr> a écrit :

> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:38:45 +0100 (CET)
> De: Ludovic Danigo <ldanigo yahoo fr>
> Objet: Registration payment [was: Drupal test]
> À: guadec-list gnome org
> 
>  
> Quim Gil <qgil desdeamericaconamor org> a écrit :
>  
>  
>  >>> And from paypal as well. Ever term of use of
> this
>  >>>service ?
>  >>> I would strongly advise to use a web payment
> system
>  >>>supllied
>  >>> by a real bank to which apply banking laws.
>  >
>  >Could you summarise which points of PayPal's terms
> of use make >them not
>  >suitable for handling GUADEC registration
> payments?
>  
>  this site will explain better than me :
>   http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
>   http://www.paypalsucks.com/
>   
>   Basicly you allow Paypal to do whatever they want
> with your Paypal
>   Account and personnaly I would not let them fiddle
> with my money :-)
>   And they are a private company, not a bank
> regulated by law. So in
>   case of trouble you're pretty much on your own.
>  
>   I got aware of that this summer by working on the
> refactoring of the
>   e-commerce site payment system.
>  
>  >I see two different types of issues here:
>  >
>  >- Problems for the participants paying their
> registration through
>  >PayPal. If someone is concerned by PayPal's
> service we are 
>  >offering them the possibility of making a bank
> transfer.
>  
>  I would do it the other way around, proposing to
> pay with bank transfer
>  and allow to pay with paypal but with a warning
> that we are not 
>  responsible in case of trouble. As this people can
> not say they were
>  not aware of the potencial risk.
>  
>  >- Problems for the GNOME Foundation for using the
> PayPal service 
>  > to receive payments. These are the ones that need
> clear and 
>  > detailed discussion now to decide whether we go
> through PayPal 
>  > or not.
>  
>  That said, it have to be ponderate a bit, it's
> clearly an easy way to do
>  micro payments and many people don't have problem.
> But once they
>  start .... :-°
>  
>  One of the site recommend
> http://www.free-merchant.com/ that would
>  be better as they abid to US law. But I don't know
> their reputation, it
>  would need a bit of investigation.
>  
>  > Your suggestion of using a web payment system of
> a bank is good, 
>  > though. First we should check if the bank(s)
> where the GNOME 
>  > Foundation has account(s) offer this service.
> Otherwise the 
>  > GNOME Foundation should open a new bank account,
> and I guess 
>  > this is something not easy to do in the short
> term (board elections, 
>  > search of substitute of Tim Ney...)
>  
>  Yeah I understand, but would strongly advise to
> have a serious look
>  at it (my paranoid side ;-)) Different bank have
> very different pricing
>  model for web payments so I guess someone should
> look at several
>  banks and what they offer. Had a review for french
> banks but I don't
>  find it and they are french :-) IMHO, the bank
> should in the same state
>  where the GNOME Foundation has been registred.
>  
>  I think that it can be done fast. We are not in the
> hurry for the moment,
>  are we ? Well, that is one of the thing we might
> discuss on the 12th.
>  When do we open for registration ?
>  
>  IMHO, opening it this month for instance wouldn't
> really be useful,
>  people will want to wait in case of another change
> of date so we 
>  migth use this delay to try to find a bank, if the
> actual bank doesn't
>  provide this kind of services or is to expensive.
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> Ludovic Danigo
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