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Today's Topics:

   1. [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about signal	autoconnecting
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   2. [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about signal	autoconnecting
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   3. [Bug 574320] New: Error in	--enable-use-deprecations
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   4. [Bug 574320] Error in --enable-use-deprecations
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   5. [Bug 574320] Error in --enable-use-deprecations
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   6. [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about signal	autoconnecting
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   7. [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about signal	autoconnecting
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   8. [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about signal	autoconnecting
      (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))


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Message: 1
Date: Thu,  5 Mar 2009 14:39:24 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about
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------- Comment #16 from Stas Sergeev  2009-03-05 14:40 UTC -------
How?
It seems, my libglademm uses the libglade API,
not gtkbuilder. I don't seem to even have the
gtkbuilder installed, yet libglademm works.
Do you mean gtkbuilder will replace libglade
_in the future_, and libglademm will start
using it one day? Or what did you mean?

About ABI breakage: its good to know there is
such an opportunity approaching. There is already
a sigc++ ABI-incompatible change here. How would
you deal with that one?

About Glib/gmmproc: are there any chances that
you would prototype the ideas you have, or is
this all for me alone? :)


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Date: Thu,  5 Mar 2009 15:02:01 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about
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------- Comment #17 from Murray Cumming  2009-03-05 15:02 UTC -------
(In reply to comment #16)
> How?
> It seems, my libglademm uses the libglade API,
> not gtkbuilder. I don't seem to even have the
> gtkbuilder installed, yet libglademm works.
> Do you mean gtkbuilder will replace libglade
> _in the future_, and libglademm will start
> using it one day? Or what did you mean?

Gtk::Builder (in gtkmm) replaces libglademm, as GtkBuilder (in GTK+) replaces
libglade.

When a reasonable amount of people are using Gtk::Builder successfully, I will
document libglademm as deprecated.

> About ABI breakage: its good to know there is
> such an opportunity approaching. There is already
> a sigc++ ABI-incompatible change here. How would
> you deal with that one?

sigc++ could break ABI too.

> About Glib/gmmproc: are there any chances that
> you would prototype the ideas you have, or is
> this all for me alone? :)

It's not a high priority for me. I would probably do that part if you did the
rest. 


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Date: Thu,  5 Mar 2009 22:52:18 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 574320] New: Error in
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           Summary: Error in --enable-use-deprecations
           Product: gtkmm
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: minor
          Priority: Normal
         Component: build
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     GNOME version: 2.23/2.24
   GNOME milestone: Unspecified


According to autoconf documentation, AC_ARG_ENABLE creates a shell variable
called enable_(your_feature). In configure.in feature is named deprecations,
but below the macro a enable_use_deprecations variable is tested, so the test
never succeeds, since this variable doesn't exist/is empty.

I'll provide a patch which changes feature name from deprecations to
use_deprecations, and a variable name inside a macro from enable_deprecations
to enable_use_deprecations.

Affected are gtkmm, glibmm, pangomm and gstreamermm.

Libgnomeuimm has --enable-deprecations option, so it's not affected, but it's
inconsistent with the rest. But I think it's not important, as libgnomeui
itself is going to be deprecated.

Should I provide patches for every package or patch for gtkmm will suffice?


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Date: Thu,  5 Mar 2009 22:55:29 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 574320] Error in
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------- Comment #1 from Krzesimir Nowak  2009-03-05 22:56 UTC -------
Created an attachment (id=130160)
 --> (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=130160&action=view)
Patches gtkmm's --enable-use-deprecations and adds an entry to Changelog

I hope I placed entry in Changelog correctly.


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Date: Fri,  6 Mar 2009 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 574320] Error in
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------- Comment #2 from Krzesimir Nowak  2009-03-06 00:40 UTC -------
> Affected are gtkmm, glibmm, pangomm and gstreamermm.
gtksourceviewmm is also affected.


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Message: 6
Date: Fri,  6 Mar 2009 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about
	signal	autoconnecting
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------- Comment #18 from Stas Sergeev  2009-03-06 14:45 UTC -------
Created an attachment (id=130198)
 --> (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=130198&action=view)
hack for libglademm build

Hi.

OK, I'll try to do my best, but please
fix the build system somehow!
When I modify the .hg or .ccg file, the
cc/h gets regenerated only by "make" in
the topdir or in libglade/src, but not
in libglade/libglademm. And when I remove
any generated file, it doesn't get
regenerated at all.
The attached hack fixes this, yet I am
sure it is far from being correct (but
using BUILT_SOURCES is a must when you
have the generated headers, AFAIK).
With glibmm the things are much worse.
It doesn't regenerate anything for me,
no matter what. So I am a kind of stuck.
And I hate autotools. Please fix the
build system for glibmm somehow so that
I can go on.


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Date: Fri,  6 Mar 2009 14:56:56 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about
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------- Comment #19 from Murray Cumming  2009-03-06 14:57 UTC -------
If you use autogen.sh then you should be in maintainer mode, meaning that the
files will be regenerated. Are you using autogen.sh?


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Date: Fri,  6 Mar 2009 20:26:32 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 573482] libglademm: thoughts about
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------- Comment #20 from Stas Sergeev  2009-03-06 20:27 UTC -------
No because I've installed everything
from src.rpm and there was no autogen.sh.
Now I enabled maintainer mode via configure
and the things are better.
Yet, it would be nice if:
1. "make" would rebuild the files whose
sources are modified, even if you type
"make" in glib/glibmm directory, not only
in glib/src. This can be done by specifying
the proper dependencies.
2. "make" would rebuild the deleted files.
This can be done by using BUILT_SOURCES
macro of automake.
Its really a relief when the build system
works flawlessly. :)


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