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Today's Topics:

   1. [Bug 520778] [PATCH] GNode wrapper implementation
      (glibmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   2. [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't like	being updated
      from other threads (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   3. [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't like	being updated
      from other threads (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   4. [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't like	being updated
      from other threads (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   5. [Bug 520778] [PATCH] GNode wrapper implementation
      (glibmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   6. [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't like	being updated
      from other threads (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   7. [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't like	being updated
      from other threads (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   8. [Bug 147342] managed child widget not deleted when	used with
      bonobo_control_new() (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:49:38 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 520778] [PATCH] GNode wrapper
	implementation
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Levi Bard changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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        is obsolete|                            |




------- Comment #7 from Levi Bard  2008-03-24 15:49 UTC -------
Created an attachment (id=107926)
 --> (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=107926&action=view)
Updated per comment #6

This will require value types to have a working operator=. Hopefully this isn't
too high a price to pay for more C++iness.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't
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------- Comment #3 from VAnhTu1987 gmail com  2008-03-24 16:30 UTC -------
Thank you for the reply, I tried g_thread_* functions since that seems to
easily integrate with existing applications.

The program barely crashes anymore (although perhaps I was just lucky), but the
TextView still got messed up when being updated from other threads, despite the
fact that I've surrounded Gtk::Main within a enter() and leave() pair like
this:

=========
    gdk_threads_enter();
    m_gtk_kit.run();
    gdk_threads_leave();
=========

g_thread_init() and gdk_threads_init() were called before those above. It also
didn't work when I surrounded all Gtk::TextBuffer::insert_at_cursor() calls
with enter()/leave() pairs.

I've got lots of other threads other than this one (although only one of them
could be running at a time), and some timeout callbacks. Do I need to surround
the pair with every single one of them or do it like the illustrated example of
gdk-Threads is enough?.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:35:15 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't
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------- Comment #4 from VAnhTu1987 gmail com  2008-03-24 16:35 UTC -------
Actually I can make it crash by scrolling the text view up and down a bit
harder :s . The errors were still random.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't
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------- Comment #5 from Jonathon Jongsma (jonner)  2008-03-24 16:46 UTC -------
according to the documentation, you need to protect every use of gtk-related
functions from a timeout or idle callback:

"Idles, timeouts, and input functions from GLib, such as g_idle_add(), are
executed outside of the main GTK+ lock. So, if you need to call GTK+ inside of
such a callback, you must surround the callback with a
gdk_threads_enter()/gdk_threads_leave() pair or use gdk_threads_add_idle_full()
which does this for you. However, event dispatching from the mainloop is still
executed within the main GTK+ lock, so callback functions connected to event
signals like GtkWidget::button-press-event, do not need thread protection.

In particular, this means, if you are writing widgets that might be used in
threaded programs, you must surround timeouts and idle functions in this
matter.

As always, you must also surround any calls to GTK+ not made within a signal
handler with a gdk_threads_enter()/gdk_threads_leave() pair."

So basically, you'll need to protect a lot of calls with enter/leave pairs. 
This is why it's generally not recommended to use gtk+ from multiple threads,
it becomes a pain.  Usually it's recommended to have one thread to *all* of the
gtk-related stuff and have the others just send messages to the UI thread (with
e.g. Glib::Dispatcher) when it needs to do ui-related things.  But I actually
don't have a lot of experience doing threaded UI programming, I'm just passing
on things I've heard regularly from others.


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:33:37 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 520778] [PATCH] GNode wrapper
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------- Comment #8 from Murray Cumming  2008-03-24 19:33 UTC -------
Oh, that's much nicer.

> This will require value types to have a working operator=.

Just as a std container would.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:35:25 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't
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------- Comment #6 from VAnhTu1987 gmail com  2008-03-24 19:35 UTC -------
I was ready to use Glib::Dispatcher but noticed something odd: My TextView is
wrapped inside a ScrolledWindow and whenever a new message is printed, the
ScrolledWindow scrolls to the bottom using this code:

===================
    Gtk::Adjustment *const vadj = m_gtk_output_scroll->get_vadjustment();       
    vadj->set_value( vadj->get_upper() );
===================

Commenting out this code and the crashy behavior went away. So the problem is
probably not one of my threads (there is only one thread running at any given
time, aside from the main thread, and it worked properly when I replaced the
TextView with a Label).

 - Is the above code to scroll the view to the bottom correct?.
 - Glib::Dispatcher doesn't allow passing data between threads, is there a
documented way to do it (I've been searching around a lot but the only question
about this one went unanswered)?.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:50:35 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 524128] Gtk::TextView widget doesn't
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------- Comment #7 from Murray Cumming  2008-03-24 19:50 UTC -------
You should not call GTK+ functions from multiple threads. I suggest that you
ask on gtkmm-list for advice. The "Is gtkmm thread-safe" question here might
also be  useful:
http://www.gtkmm.org/docs/gtkmm-2.4/docs/FAQ/html/index.html#id2552475

> So the problem is probably not one of my threads

Then please provide a simple test case that does not use threads, in a new bug
report, please.


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:52:26 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 147342] managed child widget not
	deleted when	used with bonobo_control_new()
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                 CC|                            |murrayc murrayc com
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |OBSOLETE




------- Comment #5 from Murray Cumming  2008-03-24 19:52 UTC -------
libbonobo*mm are deprecated, so there isn't much chance that this bug will ever
get any attention.


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