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   1. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   2. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   3. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   4. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   5. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
   6. [Bug 332446] API additions (gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org))
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From: "gtkmm (bugzilla.gnome.org)" <bugzilla-daemon bugzilla gnome org>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 02:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #11 from Murray Cumming  2006-05-31 06:12 UTC -------
> The main conclusion here is that this "corner" state is valid and not a=
 bug.

Again,, I disagree. Feel free to show me something specific and useful th=
at you
can't do with the current API.

> As I said earlier, to have Glib::RefPtr<Glib::Object> that can hold any=
 GTK+
object including Gtk::Widget. Actually this works perfectly now,

No, that's a bad idea. It doesn't work. You'll end up with a pointer to a=
n
invalid/freed widget. When you try to use it your program will crash.

There's no need to get lost in theory here. Simple examples would be more
persuasive.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 04:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #12 from Maxim Udushlivy  2006-05-31 08:41 UTC -------
>Again,, I disagree.=20

You disagree with the fact. Any honest reader of this entry who understan=
ds
GTK+ memory management may confirm this.


>Feel free to show me something specific and useful that you
>can't do with the current API.

"Feel free"? You probably have some wrong assumptions about my posts or
Bugzilla.


>No, that's a bad idea.

This idea is usually called polymorphism; it is not bad at all.


>It doesn't work. You'll end up with a pointer to an
>invalid/freed widget. When you try to use it your program will crash.

Wrong assumptions again: I didn't say that the destroyed but not yet free=
d
object must be used somehow.


>There's no need to get lost in theory here. Simple examples would be mor=
e
>persuasive.

The example with serialization is enough practical, simple and persuasive=
.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 06:23:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #13 from Murray Cumming  2006-05-31 10:23 UTC -------
> The example with serialization is enough practical, simple and persuasi=
ve.

Sorry. What example? I see no source code in this whole bug report.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #14 from Maxim Udushlivy  2006-05-31 11:21 UTC -------
>Sorry. What example? I see no source code in this whole bug report.

"Feel free" to write source code yourself. I posted comment #8 in order t=
o show
that comment #5 is misleading. The reader now has enouth information to m=
ake a
right conclusion.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:28:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #15 from Murray Cumming  2006-05-31 11:28 UTC -------
The purpose of an example would be to show me what can't be done with the
current API. I can't write an example to show myself something that I don=
't
understand or believe. If I had enough information then I wouldn't be ask=
ing
for you to make it clearer.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #16 from Maxim Udushlivy  2006-05-31 13:28 UTC -------
>The purpose of an example would be to show me what can't be done with th=
e
>current API. I can't write an example to show myself something that I do=
n't
>understand or believe. If I had enough information then I wouldn't be as=
king
>for you to make it clearer.

I revoked a request for RefPtr::get function in comment #4. I don't under=
stand
what source code you are asking. If you want to discuss GTK+/C++ serializ=
ation
issues, that should be done elsewhere.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 332446] API additions

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------- Comment #17 from Murray Cumming  2006-05-31 13:53 UTC -------
I really have no idea what you are talking about any more. In particular =
I have
no idea what you mean by "serialization" here. I am asking for source cod=
e so
you can say "Look, I would like to do this but there's no API for it here=
.".
With great patience I am trying very hard to discover what you need. If t=
here
is something specific that you need, please do open a new bug and try to =
be
clear about it.


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