[GTK2] Height of a menubar

["r ve" <kaas_10 hotmail com>]

I'm pretty new to all of this GTK stuff, but I did some research of course.

It seems to be unpossible though to get the height of a menubar (gtk2) 
WITHOUT actually creating a widget/menushell or whatever else is needed..

I've found that it should be possible to compute the height using the border 
width, inner padding value and the height of the default ui font being used 
in a menubar, but from other docs it seems that it's not possible to change 
the height of a menubar, instead, they're talking about some shadow option 
that could be switched on or off...

My question: Does anyone perhaps know how I can get that height value 
without creating any widgets, while only knowing about the font height?
Is the number of pixels around the menu items always a fixed value or is it 
changeable (by the user?)

I hope someone understands what I mean :)

Thanks,
Richard


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