Re: File selection widget class
- From: NavEcos <ecos navosha com>
- To: Johnathan Bailes <bailesj mindspring com>
- Cc: gtk-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: File selection widget class
- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:40:16 -0700
FWIW, I agree 100%. Every new developer moving from windows has run into this
problem.
What are the chances of a new file selection dialog being adopted into the
standard distructuion if somebody were to roll their own with: the Tree
widget, so you have a tree view of the file system, with a bunch of shortcuts
and a filter, and a Clist widget with all the files with modification times,
protection status, etc. would be wonderous to have and all the widgets are
there to make it already.
I might be able to do something like that time permitting, but I'm not going
to do it unless there is at least a reasonable chance of it being accepted.
-Rich
On Monday 23 September 2002 07:27 pm, Johnathan Bailes wrote:
> The file selection widget class is missing some very important features
> common to almost every other major gui toolkit.
>
> Many people have tried to add features to it but they are all mising one
> feature or another. Is there any plans for an edit of this before Gnome
> goes to user release?
>
> My boss goes crazy everytime he has to attach a file from a common
> network share he has to use for some of his reports without list view to
> sort the files by size, date, or type he sometimes has a hard time
> hunting for what he wants. The file open and save dialogs are pretty
> spartan.
>
> I have seen people mention this feature or that feature that was missing
> and I saw one request in bugzilla for a filter. However, I have not
> seen a laundry list so here it is and should I go bugzilla on this or is
> it a dup of a bug already entered?
>
> 1. There are no shortcuts by default to the home, desktop, documents and
> other folders like the Ximian edits.
>
> 2. There is no filter like the one I have seen in the gtk file
> selection edit I saw once. This is the most implemented addition I have
> seen in the file_selection alternatives.
>
> 3. There is no icons view. Seeing the icons especially if it either
> ties into nautilus for icon hint or used gnome default style icons would
> make picking out files from a list easier. Anjuta implements this
> pretty well.
>
> 4. There is no list view. My boss is correct that these gtk/gnomey
> (yes, he says it that way "g-nomey") apps need a way to sort the files
> in the list by name, date, size and type. This is THE MOST important
> request. Glimmer has this but only lists by name, size and file
> attributes which is limited. You need at least a Date Modified column
> and file type is more useful than attributes IMO.
>
> This is not only the kind of thing that drives a potential linux convert
> nuts but a developer already hostile to moving to linux (there are some)
> will have a field day on this complaining about the primitive nature of
> the interface.
>
> I have already gone through this with a developer in my boss's office as
> I explained to my boss that the file selection box did not work the way
> he wanted it to.
>
> This is a widget class that every user hits every day and it always
> stinks ever since Gnome 1.2. It seems like I have gotten use to it
> because I have been a Gnome user for so long and it took a true end user
> for me to recognize I needed to send this email.
>
> Is there anyway it will be fixed before the Gnome 2.2 or whatever
> release that will be termed a user's release?
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