Re: [gtk-list] Re: Whoo Hoo!

[Eric Hegstrom <ehegstrom sonoranscanners com>]

I don't want to diss the book but some of the omissions (and errors in
the source) made it harder on me. I found the GTK+ tutorial on the
gtk.org site to be a musch better structuture for a intermedaite to
advanced programmer. I have looked at Havoc Pennigton's book on Gnome
Programming (also available online at:
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/GGAD/
and think it has a better structure. I think this book in conjunction
with the gtk reference documentation and tutorial at http://www.gtk.org
would be my suggestion on how to start.

That's just my take. 

Cheers,
Eric

lloy0076 wrote:
> 
> Eric Hegstrom wrote:
> >
> > While Eric Harlow's book is a good introduction, I think of it as
> > analagous gateway drug. Great fun to start with, but quickly it becomes
> > not enough.
> 
> I can see that as well. However I think it's an excellent step towards
> making Linux a little less obscure to the general person or programmer.
> Part of marketing has always been "don't bash the potential customer
> with the full potential at the start". Give them something that's
> slightly familiar, that they'll understand and want to use.
> 
> Far too many linux documents simply dump one into techno jargon whizz
> bang land. Of course, this is if you can manage to find it in one of:
> /usr/man, /usr/info, /usr/doc, /usr/doc/HOWTO [3 subdirectories of
> this], /usr/doc/FAQ [3 subdirectories at least of this], mirror all of
> the /usr for /usr/local. Pretend you know nothing about networking and
> you want to work out how to do a reverse dns (i.e. get www.senet.com.au
> out of 203.11.90.1); difficult to find through all the docs and I got
> called an idiot straight after asking the question on the OzNet #linux
> channel AND I got banned for pointing out that that was rude!
> 
> > The coverage is spotty and within days you will either have
> > given up on Gtk+ or be digging through the docs available at gtk.org.
> 
> It's enough to get one started. I'm not terribly interested in the
> details/intricacies and such to be put in a book.If I wanted to do that
> I'd dig the source and/or the internet. You can't exactly say that it
> would be terribly efficient to take a sample app (such as the gnotepad+)
> program and decode how to program gtk+ from that? Much easier to have a
> simple, easy to understand book/tutorial and THEN you'll get much more
> out of the source....
> 
> > Then you will have to move on to harder stuff. You friends will consider
> > intervention as an option when you can no longer communicate in English
> > cause you have got so deep into the source.
> 
> My friends already think I'm weird anyway!
> 
> DL
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