Re: atypical compose key


On 9/29/06, Andriy Gapon <avg icyb net ua> wrote:
on 28/09/2006 17:34 Etsushi Kato said the following:
> On 9/28/06, Andriy Gapon <avg icyb net ua> wrote:
>> I believe that this is a check for a current key being pressed while
>> some modifier key is held down and I think that Ctrl and Alt are always
>> in the default modifier mask (Shift is explicitly ignored in this check).
> Right.  One way to solve this problem is using input method framework
> using key snooper (like SCIM), or using toplevel event (like uim),
> which can be used with GTK_IM_MODULE=XXX (name of input method) if you
> installed them.  These input method uses internal Compose sequences
> instead of (before) gtkimcontextsimple.

thank you for the reply.
I've actually tried to play with IMs but without much luck. I think I
understand the concept behind IMs/XIM, but practical usage is hard to
get. Also, I don't need to input any CJK stuff and I only use cyrillic
and extended latin input (Eastern, Central and Western European
languages), so using some powerful IM seems like an overkill to me.

I can understand the situation.  But modern IMs like SCIM [1] and/or
uim [2] have removed internal relation with CJK language, and it uses
modular mechanism.  For example if you install uim-1.2.1, you don't
need to load any CJK input method by default, and the default (direct)
IM uses Compose input as in X11 as in GTK+ and Qt environment too
(with GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk and QT_IMMODULE=uim).  It doesn't consume any
memory related CJK input method if your don't use them.

Besides, currently I can input everything I want by running Vim in xterm
— standard modern xfree86/ facilities and UTF-8 locale are
sufficient for me.

I also think it should be reorganize Compose mechanism in GTK+,
especially in X11 environment, as in one.  I got reports related
to this from European people many times.

Thus, the following question: is there any way to tell/trick GTK
application to not use all the wonderful input processing it has, nor
any sophisticated external IM, and simply (and fully) obey X, just the
same way xterm does ? [This also includes using X Compose sequences
instead of those hardcoded into GTK, etc]

uim-1.2.1 uses just the same way in's Compose mechanism in the
backend input mechanism.  So you can try to install uim 1.2.1 and use
GTK_IM_MODULE=uim as a environmental variable for GTK apps.  This
doen't load any CJK related input method, and all the Compose
sequences in is available.


Etsushi Kato
ek kato gmail com

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