Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+
- From: Andrew Ziem <ahz001 gmail com>
- To: Matthias Clasen <matthias clasen gmail com>
- Cc: gtk-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+
- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:45:59 -0600
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Matthias Clasen
<matthias clasen gmail com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz gnome org> wrote:
>> 2010/6/14 Sam Thursfield <ssssam gmail com>:
>>> A more socially-minded approach would be to work on the problem of
>>> sharing a GTK+ runtime between all apps on a system. It's perhaps not
>>> an easy problem, due different requirements in versions and specific
>>> libraries, but it's a more long-term solution to the problem of GTK+'s
>>> big runtime than for each app using GTK+ on Windows to build and
>>> distribute their own incompatible versions.
>> That is just not how you ship stuff on Windows unfortunately, there is
>> no apt/zypper/yum like thing for Windows (though MS seems to be
>> working on that apparently).
>> tml and myself went through this problem again and again, even if
>> GTK+'s API is stable, guaranteeing GTK+'s ABI on Windows is just
>> impossible for several reasons, a common GTK+ runtime is just not the
>> way to go. Easing the bundling process of Gtk+ into a windows
>> app/installer, and reducing the amount of dependencies is the way to
> That may be, but 'disable this random set of widgets I don't need'
> patches have very little chance of going upstream.
Disabling specific features is used elsewhere. wxWidgets is similar
to GTK+ in the context of being a toolkit for building cross platform
apps where on Windows each app typically includes it in the installer,
and wxWidgets has many configure options:
$ ./wxGTK-2.8.11/configure --help | grep enable | wc -l
Apparently one for each class:
--enable-filepicker use wxFilePickerCtrl class
--enable-fontpicker use wxFontPickerCtrl class
--enable-gauge use wxGauge class
--enable-grid use wxGrid class
--enable-dataviewctrl use wxDataViewCtrl class
--enable-hyperlink use wxHyperlinkCtrl class
In general having a robust feature set is great, but for specific apps
these unused features are bloat.
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