Re: Callback based tooltips (Re: New tooltips API, continued)

[Tim Janik <timj imendio com>]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Soeren Sandmann wrote:

> Tim Janik <timj imendio com> writes:
>
> > > That's because that feature simply doesn't work. Moving the mouse to a
> > > tooltip-less area does not turn off fast mode as it should, regardless
> > > of grouping.
> >
> > well, given that behaviour is implemented, there's no need for seperate
> > groups, right?
>
> I am not really arguing for (or against) groups. I think 'groups', if
> implemented, should probably not have any representation in the UI
> though. They might be useful in the API.
>
> > >        - Browse mode should be turned off when you leave the area of
> > >          the tooltip group.
> >
> > what's thr rationale here? why shouldn't browse mode continue, say on the next
> > group of text entry fields after browsing toolbar tooltips?
> > or phrased differently, wehn in browse mode, why should the user wait *extra*
> > time for some of the tooltips and not others?
>
> Right, replace 'the area of the tooltip group' with 'the set of
> widgets that have tooltips'. The important thing is, if the cursor
> moves to a place where there are no tooltips, browse mode should be
> turned off.

ACK ;)

> > >        - They should not appear before we have seen at least one
> > >          motion event on the widget (ie. stuff that pops up under the
> > >          mouse should not get a tooltip). (Or possibly an 'enter'
> > >          that doesn't come from popping up if such a thing can be
> > >          generated).
> >
> > and exception to this (e.g. in the tree view) is prolly either:
> > a) a tooltips is already shown, and the view scrolls to a new tip,
> > or
> > b) no tooltip is already shown and the view scrolls to a new tip.
>
> A view scrolling under the mouse cursor should generally be counted as
> motion, I think.

imagine there'S no tooltip yet, and you're (auto-)scrolling onto an
item with tooltip. you think that should be handled like ordinary motion,
wait for the initial tooltip timeout and the pop up the new item's tip?

thanks for providing a writing up the general timing behviour for tooltips
btw, forgot to say that in the previous email ;)

> Soren

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