Re: [HCI] Focus navigation with arrow keys

[Mikael Hermansson <tyan linux se>]

On sat, 10 mar 2001 00:55:40 Owen Taylor wrote:
> For me at least, it's confusing and frustrating when the focus
> gets trapped in an entry if I'm trying to navigate with the
> arrow keys, so I don't use them.

IMHO. This is a kind of frustrating in the new GtkTreeView widget to.

When using the arrows to navigate in the treeview and you hit the last
item it will jump to the next widget.

Imho. nothing should happen if when pressing GDK_Down on the last item in
the treeview.
Only the Gdk_Tab should move focus to next widget. 

Just my.... :-)

Greets

M.H.

On lör, 10 mar 2001 00:55:40 Owen Taylor wrote:
> 
> Tim Janik <timj gtk org> writes:
> 
> > On 9 Mar 2001, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Tim Janik <timj gtk org> writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com> writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > A rather unusual feature that GTK+ has had for a long time
> > > > > > is the ability to move the keyboard focus not just with
> > > > > > Tab/<Shift>-Tab, but also with the arrow keys.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ditch 'em!  They are more trouble than they are worth.
> > > > 
> > > > what?
> > > > 
> > > > heck, ever moved around in a dialog like this:
> > > > 
> > > > +---------------+ +---------------+
> > > > |               | |               |
> > > > | label |entry| | | label |entry| |
> > > > |               | |               |
> > > > | label |entry| | | label |entry| |
> > > > |               | |               |
> > > > +---------------+ +---------------+
> > > > 
> > > > ?
> > > 
> > > Hmmm, if I'm in the upper left entry, I can't move to
> > > the upper right entry by hitting <Right>, because <Right>
> > > moves the cursor.
> > > 
> > > So, how does having the directional navigation help here?
> > 
> > yeah well, buttons are a way better example ;)
> 
> I find, when trying to use the arrow key navigation that my
> thought processes run exactly like the above.
> 
>  - why isn't focusing working?
>  
>  - it's broken!
> 
>  - Oh, it's an entry. 
> 
> For me at least, it's confusing and frustrating when the focus
> gets trapped in an entry if I'm trying to navigate with the
> arrow keys, so I don't use them.
> 
> (The windows solution here, as Hans Breuer pointed out a while
> ago is that arrow keys navigate only navigate within a restricted
> set of widgets where arrow keys don't do anything else and
> won't take you out of that group.)
> 
> Regards,
>                                         Owen
> 
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