Re: bugzilla abuse

On 5 Jan 2001, Owen Taylor wrote:

> Tim Janik <timj gtk org> writes:
> > hi havoc,
> > 
> > you recently submitted a bunch of bogus gobject bugs to bugzilla.
> > 1) bugzilla is _not_ a development mailing list replacement, a couple
> >    of your bugs are convenience or "could be done differently" items,
> >    those need proper discussion on gtk-devel instead of being submitted
> >    to a bugtracker where they'll sit without getting the investigation/
> >    comments from the comunity they deserve
> Most of these have already been discussed on mailing lists. 

those, i adressed under (2).

> > 2) some of your bugs had already been adressed in previous threads, bugzilla
> >    is not your personal wishlist bag for "i still want things the xxx way done"
> >    things
> If you don't agree with a bug, put a comment on the bug saying that
> you don't agree with the bug.
> If you are positive that a bug is wrong, close it.

yeah, i'd do that if i had a decent email interface. what's the status of that,
is someone assigned to provide an email alternative for web-broswsing?

though my main point here is that, for th emost part, havoc should have been
mailing feature requests regarding my code to me, to let me make the final
decision on whether something is a todo item, currently being dealt with,
or none of that.

> > 3) it doesn't help any to submit things as bug reports just because they're
> >    currently being worked on but haven't ended up in CVS yet
> Yes it does. It helps us keep track of what still needs to go into CVS.
> [ And we generally, have no idea what is in your local branch. ]

sure, neither do i know what you got in your local branch, but bugzilla
isn't a real alternative to established issue communication untill everyone
in the project can use it fully for issue tracking.

> > last but not least, i personally am not going to use bugzilla seriously
> > anyways, until there's a decent and functionally equivalent email interface
> > to it. maintenance where every bug evaluation or commenting thereof
> > requires me to be online is simply not an option.
> Well, then consider, for now, a way for Havoc, me, etc, to track issues.
> We're happy to keep on reminding you about issues that you need to
> address by email.
> But we have no functioning alternative issue-tracking system, and just
> using nothing is not an option.

huh, since when did TODO.xml become officially "nothing"?

> Regards,
>                                         Owen


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