Re: [Denemo-devel] Tooltips - what am I doing wrong?

[Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com>]

Hi;

On 18 November 2015 at 16:55, Richard Shann <richard rshann plus com> wrote:

> > > But in the longer term we are coming up to a crunch - the people
> > > developing Gtk are clearly only interested in a narrow group of users.
> >
> > Defining "narrow" as "the group that I'm not in" is not conducive to
> > an honest discussion.
>
> which is why I didn't do anything so idiotic as to define narrow as "not
> my group". But you could very reasonably argue that "wide" equates to
> large numbers of users and narrow to a few. Whereas, what I had in mind
> is wide equating to diverse and complex uses and narrow just to the
> popular simple uses. You can send an email and switch to a calendar and
> lookup a web page with a simple interface comprising a few gestures, but
> you can't do complex technical tasks efficiently that way.

You still haven't demonstrated that "changing tooltip delay", having
frame widgets draw a box, or dropping tear-off menus, equates to
"performing complex tasks" — unless, obviously, you consider the
current Denemo UI the only way to perform complex tasks, in which case
I strongly encourage you to look at the wider world of user
interaction and design, including in the proprietary world.

Alternatively, you will need to guide me through what you define as "a
complex task", and how is GTK failing to help you perform it.

> > For better or worse, the world of computing is changing.
>
> I think this is the crux of the matter. The "world of computing" has
> been joined (swamped?) by millions of new users with new devices that
> can't be used for complex tasks (which those millions would not think of
> attempting anyway). And the GTK project is adapting to this "big
> league".
> So, I think you may have answered my question "Where do we go?": we will
> have to revert to Gtk2 sooner or later.

That's entirely up to you, and though I hope you reconsider that, if
using GTK2 serves the Denemo project better than reworking your UI to
take advantage of new API, then more power to you.

Ciao,
 Emmanuele.

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