Re: What's the deal with gtkglarea?

[Pete Nagy <Peter Nagy vexcel com>]

Gee, I just spent months porting the 1.2 dependent OpenEV application to
gtk2.  The lackadaisical 'why don't you just use 2.0' illustrates the
problem nicely.  gtk2 may not have been a huge change over 1.2, but more
problematic was the corresponding pygtk change, throw in a few other
gtk1.2 dependent dependencies like gtkglarea and gtkextra and you've got
headaches.

It may seem trivial to make the change from 1.2 to 2, but it's a mistake
to treat this lightly, because applications pull together a lot of
interdependent pieces.  Each deprecation and preferred new api can
translate into a lot of rewritten code.  What if datasets used by your app
stored fonts with x strings, and you want to initialize a pango font
chooser?  Maybe you'll find that easy solution, but oops, there goes
another hour.

The proper course of action for an application written on gtk 1.2 is
indeed to use gtk2, because 1.2 is dead.  An application dependent on it
will wither and die.  Too bad you'll have to spend so much time porting.

On the plus side, it seems to me that gtk2 and the built in types of
pygtk2 are a more stable design and future changes should be more along
the lines of new stuff.  I've got my fingers crossed, anyway!

-> Pete

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [ISO-8859-1] André Pedralho wrote:

> Sorry! I think it was on another mailing list! However, why don't you
> use GTK 2.0?
>
> On 7/7/05, André Pedralho <apedralho gmail com> wrote:
> > I think we don't have support to GTK 1.2, do we? Why don't you use the GTK 2.0??
> >
> > On 7/7/05, David Morse <dcmorse gmail com> wrote:
> > > On 7/7/05, David Necas (Yeti) <yeti physics muni cz> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:37:03PM -0400, David Morse wrote:
> > > > > What's up with gtkglarea?  The version in Fedora Core 4 has its most
> > > > > recent ChangeLog entry in 2002.  The author's page for it is 404.
> > > >
> > > > GtkGLArea is effectively dead.  GtkGLExt is a much better
> > > > replacement for Gtk+2 apps.
> > >
> > > What is the proper course of action for an application written on Gtk
> > > 1.2?  (I /think/ that's what I'm using ... major development was in
> > > 2001, IIRC).
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> > André Pedralho
> > Bachelor in Computer Science
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