Re: Why would you go and do a thing like this ?

[Adrian Custer <acuster gmail com>]

Dear Sir,

It is unfortunate that you have recently messed up your previously clean 
installation. Computers can be very frustrating in that we can create 
problems for ourselves very quickly with few commands. It is also sad 
that you are upset. Unfortunately, your email is unlikely to resolve the 
situation but rather is likely to spread your annoyance to a larger 
audience.

In response to your comments:

1) Gnumeric *can* be built with very few dependencies.

2) Gnumeric is often bundled by the distributions with full GNOME 
dependencies.

So, if you wanted to install a simple gnumeric installation, you could 
do so. However, it sounds like slackware does what many other 
distributions do and packages gnumeric for you with the full GNOME stack 
as dependencies. This is why the audio libraries are being required.

If you want further help, I would suggest sending a more pleasant email 
to the list so that perhaps one of the knowledgeable developers would 
feel like spending their leisure time helping you understand better both 
your machine and the gnumeric code base. In such an email, you should 
explain in greater detail what you are trying to do, what distribution 
you are using, how you decided to install gnumeric, and other relevant 
technical information. Alternatively, you might use a search engine to 
see if someone has already created a slackware bundle of gnumeric with 
fewer dependencies. Another possibility is to obtain a gnumeric tarball 
yourself, look at its contents and the configure flags which are 
available and build a version of gnumeric which depends on gtk+ and few 
other libraries.

Best of luck in your future endevours.

a gnumeric user,
Adrian Custer





Robert G. Ristroph wrote:
> Hi,
>
>         I was recently appalled to view the number of libraries that
>         gnumeric links.  Do you guys have any excuse or explanation
>         for this travesty ?
>
>         I am particularly shocked at the moment because I had a nice,
>         clean slackware linux machine an hour ago, with X and fvwm and
>         mozilla and few applications and midnight commander all
>         residing in a few hundred megabytes.  I went to put a spread
>         sheet on there and I feel like someone dumped a truck load of
>         AOL cds all over my freshly cut lawn.
>
>         In particular, I am interested to know why gnumeric requires
>         the use of libesd.so and libaudiofile.so, especially as my
>         computer has no sound card.  I also wouldn't mind knowing what
>         required the use of libresolv.so and libnsl.so, as I would
>         rather the program with my data in it did not contact the
>         internet.
>
>         If this were a Microsoft product I would presume that
>         Microsoft was trying to bundle the spreadsheet with the sound
>         library in order to foist some broken sound format upon the
>         world, and the libresolv was necessary to send to Redmond what
>         it snooped from my harddrive.
>
>         I think you guys have some fine code in gnumeric.  I would
>         rather it not be mixed with all that other crap.  I feel like
>         an art lover discovering someone stapling a calender girl
>         pinup over the Mona Lisa.
>
>         Do you guys have any excuse for this ?
>
>         Why don't you make gnumeric at least run without the
>         libraries, and only load them with dl() when you actually need
>         to play a sound and visit a web site, and make the software be
>         politely and functionally silent if it doesn't find them ?
>
> --Rob
>
> P.S.  In case you haven't looked:
>
> [~] ldd /usr/bin/gnumeric 
>         libglade-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0 (0x4002a000)
>         libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0 (0x40040000)
>         libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0 (0x40073000)
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 (0x400cf000)
>         libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4016b000)
>         libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40174000)
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 (0x4018b000)
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 (0x401ea000)
>         libgnome-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0 (0x40214000)
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 (0x40229000)
>         libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x40240000)
>         libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x40266000)
>         libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x40549000)
>         libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x405c8000)
>         libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x405e4000)
>         libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 (0x405fa000)
>         libpangox-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0x40602000)
>         libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x4060d000)
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 (0x40646000)
>         libbonobo-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0 (0x406a7000)
>         libgconf-2.so.4 => /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4 (0x40700000)
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4 => /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so.4 (0x40733000)
>         libORBit-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 (0x40749000)
>         libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x4079f000)
>         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x407a3000)
>         libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x407a6000)
>         libgsf-gnome-1.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgsf-gnome-1.so.1 (0x407ab000)
>         libgsf-1.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.1 (0x407b0000)
>         libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x407da000)
>         libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 (0x4080e000)
>         libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40915000)
>         libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40966000)
>         libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x40978000)
>         libpopt.so.0 => /lib/libpopt.so.0 (0x409f8000)
>         libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40a01000)
>         libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40a23000)
>         libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x40b56000)
>         libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40b85000)
>         libgnome-keyring.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0 (0x40bf2000)
>         libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40bfe000)
>         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40c1c000)
>         libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0x40ce3000)
>         libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0x40ceb000)
>         libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x40d10000)
>         libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40d14000)
>         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40d1c000)
>         libXft.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40d2a000)
>         libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x40d3d000)
>         libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40d46000)
>         libgnutls.so.11 => /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.11 (0x40d4f000)
>         libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x40db6000)
>         librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x40dc8000)
>         libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0 (0x40ddb000)
>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
>         libbz2.so.1.0 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x40de1000)
>         libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x40df0000)
>         libgcrypt.so.11 => /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 (0x40e20000)
>         libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x40e6d000)
>         libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x40e72000)
>         libtasn1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.2 (0x40e10000)
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