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Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Gnomemeeting to netmeeting choppy audio/video.

Hi,

Le lundi 22 août 2005 à 23:02 +0200, jo de baer a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Back at home ...
> General history does not list the codec it seems? 
> 

It doesn't seem like you are in a call. You have to be in a call to be
able to determine what codec is used during it.

> Thanks,
> 
> Jo
> 
> dmesg when I plug in my camera :
> --------------------------------------
> usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
> bridge-eth0: disabling the bridge
> bridge-eth0: down
> bridge-eth0: enabling the bridge
> bridge-eth0: up
> Linux video capture interface: v1.00
> spca5xx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
> /home/jo/remove/spca5xx-20050701/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: USB SPCA5xx camera 
> found. Type QC Express (unknown CCD)
> /home/jo/remove/spca5xx-20050701/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: [spca5xx_probe:8652] 
> Camera type GBGR
> usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx
> /home/jo/remove/spca5xx-20050701/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver 
> 00.57.00 registered
> tg3: eth0: Link is up at 10 Mbps, half duplex.
> tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
> 
> General history :
> ------------------
> 22:54:49 Started GnomeMeeting 1.2.1 for user jo
> 22:54:49 Opening video device QC Express with plugin V4L
> 22:54:52 Successfully opened video device QC Express, channel 0
> 
> Debug output :
> ----------------
> jo linux:~> gnomemeeting -d 4
> 2005/08/22 22:54:44.301   0:00.585                 H323 Cleaner H323    
> Started cleaner thread
> 2005/08/22 22:54:44.360   0:00.644                 gnomemeeting Detected audio 
> plugins: ALSA,OSS,Quicknet
> 2005/08/22 22:54:44.361   0:00.644                 gnomemeeting Detected video 
> plugins: Picture,V4L
> 2005/08/22 22:54:46.085   0:02.368                 gnomemeeting Detected the 
> following audio input devices: Intel 82801DB-ICH4,Default with plugin ALSA
> 2005/08/22 22:54:46.085   0:02.368                 gnomemeeting Detected the 
> following audio output devices: Intel 82801DB-ICH4,Default with plugin ALSA
> 2005/08/22 22:54:46.085   0:02.369                 gnomemeeting Detected the 
> following video input devices: QC Express with plugin V4L
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.833   0:06.116                 gnomemeeting GnomeMeeting 
> version 1.2.1
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.833   0:06.116                 gnomemeeting OpenH323 
> version 1.15.2
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.833   0:06.116                 gnomemeeting PWLIB version 
> 1.8.3
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.833   0:06.116                 gnomemeeting GNOME support 
> enabled
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.833   0:06.116                 gnomemeeting Fullscreen 
> support enabled
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.834   0:06.117                 gnomemeeting DBUS support 
> disabled
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.834   0:06.117                 gnomemeeting Quicknet 
> hardware support enabled
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.926   0:06.209                 gnomemeeting Set TCP port 
> range to 3000030010
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.926   0:06.209                 gnomemeeting Set RTP port 
> range to 50005016
> 2005/08/22 22:54:49.926   0:06.209                 gnomemeeting Set UDP port 
> range to 50205023
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.432   0:08.715                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "iLBC-13k3{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.435   0:08.719                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: iLBC-13k3{sw} <1>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.438   0:08.722                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "MS-GSM{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.441   0:08.725                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: MS-GSM{sw} <2>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.444   0:08.728                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "SpeexNarrow-15k{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.447   0:08.731                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.450   0:08.734                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "iLBC-15k2{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.453   0:08.737                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: iLBC-15k2{sw} <4>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.457   0:08.740                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "GSM-06.10{hw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.460   0:08.743                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "GSM-06.10{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.462   0:08.746                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <5>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.465   0:08.749                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "SpeexNarrow-8k{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.468   0:08.752                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <6>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.472   0:08.779                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "G.726-32k{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.498   0:08.782                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: G.726-32k{sw} <7>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.502   0:08.785                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "G.711-uLaw-64k{hw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.505   0:08.789                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "G.711-uLaw-64k{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.508   0:08.792                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: G.711-uLaw-64k <8>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.511   0:08.795                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "G.711-ALaw-64k{hw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.514   0:08.798                 gnomemeeting H323    
> FindCapability: "G.711-ALaw-64k{sw}"
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.517   0:08.801                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: G.711-ALaw-64k <9>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.520   0:08.804                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.523   0:08.807                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: H.261-QCIF <11>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.526   0:08.810                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: UserInput/hookflash <12>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.530   0:08.813                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: UserInput/basicString <13>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.533   0:08.817                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: UserInput/dtmf <14>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.554   0:08.838                 gnomemeeting H323    Added 
> capability: UserInput/RFC2833 <15>
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.558   0:08.842                 gnomemeeting H323    
> Started listener Listener[ip$*:1720]
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.562   0:08.846        H323 Listener:840dfb0 H323    
> Awaiting TCP connections on port 1720
> 2005/08/22 22:54:52.565   0:08.849        H323 Listener:840dfb0 TCP     
> Waiting on socket accept on ip$*:1720
>                                                                               
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 22 August 2005 11:21, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le lundi 22 août 2005 à 11:06 +0200, jo de baer a écrit :
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > in the available codecs section, are checked :
> > > iLBC-13k3, MS-GSM, SpeexNarrow-15k, iLBC-15k2, GSM-06.10, SpeexNarrow-8k,
> > > G.726-32k, G.711-uLaw-64k and G.711-ALaw-64k.
> > >
> > > All the other are not checked. But how do you know which one is used? "-d
> > > 4" ?
> >
> > in the general history. If it is G.711, that can explain the problem.
> >
> > > The jitter buffer is between 20 and 500ms (default setting).
> > >
> > > For video codecs the settings are 8kB/s, and 42 bg transmits. But playing
> > > with those didn't change it :-).
> > >
> > > Indeed ... will check dmeg. Gqcam doesn't have the choppyness, only GM.
> > > Can you adise other ways of checking what is going on?
> >
> > GQCam doesn't use the same video palette. What release of GM is this?
> >
> > > Are the video and audio "related" ? I mean : could the choppyness of the
> > > video explain the choppyness of the audio I send out?
> >
> > Yes, it could.
> >
> > > Thanks so far !!
> > >
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > On Monday 22 August 2005 09:49, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > > Le lundi 22 août 2005 à 09:08 +0200, jo de baer a écrit :
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to set up a netmeeting - gnomemeeting connection
> > > > > (Netmeeting to netmeeting works fine).
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem is that netmeeting person hears my audio choppy almost all
> > > > > the time, likewise for the video. I hear and see her fine. The
> > > > > connection is also lost quite often (recall needed). So the problem
> > > > > seems to be totally on my side.
> > > >
> > > > What codecs are you using?
> > > >
> > > > > I must say even without a connection, gnomemeeting starts showing
> > > > > local video very choppy at regular times. Stracing it, the poll()
> > > > > call just takes way more time app. from two minutes afer launching
> > > > > GM. Can it be that this is related to the choppy audio?
> > > >
> > > > It could be. Have you checked the dmesg output? It could be a probelm
> > > > with the USB bus, or the camera. It shouldn't be choppy when there is
> > > > no call.
> > > >
> > > > > Technical info about my machine :
> > > > >
> > > > > Dell D800 with Intel 82801 DB-ICH4 audio. Webcam is new model
> > > > > Quickcam Logitech express (bad buy I guess), so I am using the
> > > > > spca5xx-20050701 driver for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Linux version is SuSE 9.3, so kernel 2.6.11.etc .
> > > > >
> > > > > Rpms : openh323-1.15.2-3, gnomemeeting-1.2.1-4.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help with this :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Jo
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: what is strange is that while testing the setup with the 2
> > > > > computer cross-connected, I also had choppiness in the audio sent to
> > > > > the netmeeting when netmeeting send a large image to me. Making
> > > > > netmeeting send a small video capture to gnomemeeting improved the
> > > > > audio sent from gnomemeeting to netmeeting. Did the large video cause
> > > > > CPU load on the gnomemeeting machine? But right now the problem is
> > > > > also there with a smaller image :-/
> 
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